$txt['mentions'] = 'Mentions'; $txt['scheduled_task_removeMentions'] = 'Remove seen mentions'; $txt['scheduled_task_desc_removeMentions'] = 'Automatically removes seen mentions older than the specified days'; Print Page - Champions...

Yorkshire Rugby Forum

League Rugby => North One => Topic started by: backrowbandit on August 14, 2018, 12:20:42 PM

Title: Champions...
Post by: backrowbandit on August 14, 2018, 12:20:42 PM
My early prediction for champions.. by a distance is.


YORK.

They have spent some serious $$$ on more assistant coaches (10 coaches coaching 5 players!) and will be comfortably the best team in the league.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Mink on August 14, 2018, 12:23:17 PM
think someone is fishing for a reaction and taking the eyes off their own club!!!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: backrowbandit on August 14, 2018, 12:35:36 PM
Those days are gone.

I'm just aware of quite a few very good signings for York...although the junior subs are having to go up to cover the costs!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Mink on August 14, 2018, 12:47:24 PM
i think the York club has been under achieving for some time. Where they are geographically will always attract players, I think you are wrong and probably not in a position to comment if they do or don't attract said players
obviously you make out that scarborough do everything buy the book just like every club do...
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: backrowbandit on August 14, 2018, 12:54:16 PM
On the contrary...there is nothing wrong with what York are doing. They are permitted paid player coaches (to an extent).

And as for how it's paid for...it an age old classic redistribution of funds. Money is taken off the parents of junior players and given to players in the first XV. It works well for them and everyone seems to accept it.

Agree about the geography of York....they are well placed to progress .
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Oldandslow on August 14, 2018, 03:29:47 PM
Hard league to win.

Promoted sides quite often need a season to consolidate.

So I would be looking at Driffield and West Leeds from Yorkshire. Also don’t write off Morpeth they are always competitive and I understand they have recruited well.

Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Breakwell15 on August 14, 2018, 03:36:39 PM
BRB - who have they signed out of interest? They were a quality side when we played them year before last. So I imagine they have come on and are even stronger without said new recruits.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Mink on August 14, 2018, 04:22:23 PM
one interesting point... how many player coaches will York have?
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Sail By on August 14, 2018, 04:29:20 PM
http://www.yorkrufc.co.uk/news/york-rufc-coaching-team-augmented-2332418.html
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Red Horseman on August 14, 2018, 04:29:46 PM
I'm sure it won't be long before one of them posts - unless they are the latest club to impose a forum fatwah.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Mink on August 14, 2018, 05:04:59 PM
i have seen that
i guessed that there would be two players... but you can only have one paid player coach
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Dropkicker on August 14, 2018, 06:15:06 PM
To the best of my knowledge the only player coach is Carter Croft he's the only one with enough experience at 70+ years of age.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Grump on August 14, 2018, 06:27:43 PM
I'm sure it won't be long before one of them posts - unless they are the latest club to impose a forum fatwah.

Who else is banned from the forum ? Other than old rish obviously.

Over the years there is an extensive list, but Malton and Brid head the list. Usually imposed by a precious Coach or Committee member - RH
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: porkies on August 14, 2018, 06:31:21 PM
I’m sure York will be more than happy just to finish one place above Scarborough !
I’ve not heard of any new players other than a v good returning back rower . Apparently some of the young lads gave a good account of themselves against Scunny last week.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Ian1307 on August 15, 2018, 08:35:29 AM
Thank you for your interest in York RUFC. We have a new coaching team; Lee Denham continues as Head Coach into his 4th season. Steve Johnson joins the coaching team as player coach looking after the set piece (sure everyone with a knowledge of Yorkshire rugby will agree that he has plenty to offer in that department) along With JB Bruzilier who is backs coach and a contracted player with Yorkshire Carnegie who successfully applied to our advert in June. Danny Morgan joins us to look after S&C, he was a PT instructor in the RAF based at Linton and recently left to start a career as a personal trainer, he also played for last couple of seasons in our 2nd and 3rd team. Finally we have given Carter Croft the role as player development coach and will also look after video analysis. We have retained almost all the players from last season, losing one winger who has moved over to Liverpool with his girlfriend. We have signed several young players from our successful Colts side that made the National Cup final 2 years running and have re-signed a good quality specialist 7 who spent last year at Broughton Park.

Fully transparent here at York and looking forward to the season.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: oldun on August 15, 2018, 11:48:23 AM
Well, good luck to all 14 teams in the league----all of whom SHOULD be starting the season with high expectations!!

As for the "market leaders", well, we can expect both DRIFF and MORPETH to be up there with their experience, and finishing positions over the last few seasons.

BRAD and BINGLEY, a little bird told me at the weekend are paying Poser at least £30K, and are expecting/have got loads of new players. Poser has been bought to get them back where they THINK they should be----so expect them to be up there in the top 3/4.

Don't think YORK for all their recruitment will do it this season, neither will SCARBRO or CONSETT, all of whom will be around mid table.

MORLEY having come down may have to rebuild---but hey, who knows!

I  will be quite happy if the lads finish where we did last season, bang on mid table, 5 points above Malton---hope at the end we are 2nd best East Yorks side after Driff, or even the best !!!!!!


Should be a cracker of a season-----6 from East, 5 from West and only 3 from "up there"!!!!


Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Oldandslow on August 15, 2018, 01:01:26 PM
Oldun

You are right about B&B splashing the cash they have also recruited Hugh Gumms who was Ponte head coach as Poser’s number 2, know he was well rewarded at Ponte.

As normal will be having several weekends in Brid this season, first visit planned for the second Saturday of the season when Brid entertain Scarborough.

No weak teams I think so should be a great season.


Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Chief Selector on August 15, 2018, 03:35:58 PM
Gumms will only be cone collecting if Poser is about........

Why do B&B do it....paying all that money........ they were doing it in 1988 when we used to wipe the floor with them and there still doing it 30 years later and have got nowhere....indeed they are lower down the scale
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Master_Knowledge on August 15, 2018, 04:25:21 PM
They still exist though eh

Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Johnosjstrap on August 15, 2018, 05:37:44 PM
Oldandslow,  for the 2nd year in succession apparently 'Morpeth have recruited well', and for the 2nd year in a row it would be good to know where these recruits are?

As a Morpeth man I can assure you, unless the turnip market has taken off or there's been some form of secretive Pacific Island rehousing project started in NE61, Morpeth will be relying on graduating Colts or walk ins for squad additions.

Half an orange a week is an attractive package to offer I admit but as per, we'll be home grown and pretty much same as always.

This season looks exciting, roll on Week 1.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Oldandslow on August 15, 2018, 06:11:57 PM
Gumms will only be cone collecting if Poser is about........

Why do B&B do it....paying all that money........ they were doing it in 1988 when we used to wipe the floor with them and there still doing it 30 years later and have got nowhere....indeed they are lower down the scale

Chief selector

Told he has signed a three year deal like Poser. They worked together with the Yorkshire  under 20 I think. With Yorkshire Poser was head coach and Gumms the backs coach.

You ask why they do it and the answer is they think they are a big club, think there is only them, Salem and Wibsey in the city.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: TheChainsaw on August 16, 2018, 03:00:14 PM
Signing a 3 year deal at this level is ridiculous. Typical of a club/person who think they're bigger/better than they actually are. Bees were very lucky not to be playing at level 7 this season, a reassessment and consolidation year would be more beneficial long term rather than chucking money at it in hope it will fix the rot temporarily.

For what it's worth. my predictions for the top 4 teams (in no particular order) are: Driffield, WL, Morpeth & Cleckheaton. I can see it going down to the wire, at both ends of the table
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: WL XIII on August 16, 2018, 05:10:52 PM
They still exist though eh

Haha ????  timing.

30 years of paying big is actually pretty impressive.

I was on about “paying players” other day and I think it’s a bit like doing social drugs.
No one likes to admit they do it, its illegal, it can be exciting, we all know someone who does it and sometimes it can go very bad. But generally it’s none of my business. I don’t know the circumstances and it doesn’t change who they are or define them (usually)
I even get the same perverse satisfaction beating a paying club as I get staying out later than my mates who bang on it or out lifting the middle aged guy at gym who likes “juice” with his lunch.

Just a thought.
It’s pretty normal that it happens, you just gotta make your own choices.
Equally it’s not cool to wear a t shirt that reads “Say no to Drugs!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: TimberJedi on August 17, 2018, 10:19:47 PM
1 Morley
2 Driffield
3 Pocklington
4 West Leeds
5 York
6 Morpeth
7 Percy Park
8 Bradford & Bingley
9 Cleckheaton
10 Malton
11 Bridlington
12 Consett
13 Huddersfield
14 Scarborough
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: backrowbandit on August 18, 2018, 06:58:10 AM
Hope scarborough can manage a bit better than that....but good on you for actually nailing your colours to the mast.

Anyone else fancy a stab?
I don't enough about many of the teams.

Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Oldandslow on August 18, 2018, 08:02:34 AM
Already stated my top three but will have a go BRB

1 Driffield
2 West Leeds
3 Morpeth
4 B&B
5 Brid
6 Pocklington
7 York
8 Scarborough
9 Consett
10 Cleckheaton
11 Malton
12 Morley
13 YMCA
14 Percy Park

But as I’ve proved over recent years I’m useless at predicting.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: backrowbandit on August 18, 2018, 08:27:23 AM
Shows how open it may be that someone has Morley as champions and someone else has them relegated!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Gorilla on August 19, 2018, 09:03:57 PM
Already stated my top three but will have a go BRB

1 Driffield
2 West Leeds
3 Morpeth
4 B&B
5 Brid
6 Pocklington
7 York
8 Scarborough
9 Consett
10 Cleckheaton
11 Malton
12 Morley
13 YMCA
14 Percy Park

But as I’ve proved over recent years I’m useless at predicting.



Re: Durham and northumberland clubs season 2018/19
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2018, 09:28:26 AM »
QuoteModifyRemove


I think Percy Park will do well this year and won’t be rock bottom.  They have a new head coach - Lawrence Patton from the Newcastle Falcons academy, Ash Smith has signed as player coach from Tynedale made the rugby papers national 2 dream team at 12 and they have also acquired the services of Matt Hodkinson who is the Falcons 1st team analyst who is also coaching.

They have also signed Ali Blair (centre) and Liam Scott (back row) back to the club from Newcastle Thunder. There has also been some very talented young players sign from local clubs who will definetly be getting a shot at 1st team rugby this year.

I think PP will do well this year and fingers crossed be pushing back at the top of the league!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: backrowbandit on August 19, 2018, 09:20:39 PM
It's going to be competitive at the top.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Oldandslow on August 20, 2018, 07:41:53 AM
Gorilla

Have Percy Park at the bottom on my predictions above because in recent seasons they have had a steady decline. Think they were relegated from National 3 about five seasons ago and have since slipped down North One East and just avoided relegation last season.

That they have recruited well and strengthen will only serve to make the league even more competitive.

I for one will find it difficult to predict the results of the early league games and will no doubt assume my normal position towards the bottom of the predictions league.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Dark Arts Advocate on August 26, 2018, 11:14:14 AM
It's going to be competitive at the top.

Not sure your boys need worry about that!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Dropkicker on August 26, 2018, 03:09:25 PM
As provocative as ever somethings never change.. will keep things interesting if nothing else.
At least you have several more clubs this season to use your charms on ????
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Welshwonder on August 26, 2018, 03:37:16 PM
Crystal ball still a bit cloudy after the long dry summer,predictions before a ball is kicked look like this:-
1, Morpeth
2, Driffield
3, Cleckheaton
4, West Leeds
5, Pocklington
6, Bradford & Bingley
7, Scarborough
8, Percy Park
9,  York
10, Morley
11, Bridlington
12, Consett
13, Huddersfield YMCA
14 Malton & Norton

No idea really.....looking forward to a battle in a very competitive league????

Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: The Show Pony on August 28, 2018, 11:53:05 AM
Those days are gone.

I'm just aware of quite a few very good signings for York...although the junior subs are having to go up to cover the costs!

First I would like to say it feels good to be back on here with BRB. I have missed you dearly!

Ok, please can you let me know who we have signed? Because to my knowledge we have one signing! who is a 7 who played at the club 2 years ago???

The "Player Coach" is definitely just a coach! he wouldn't get in the team with Toby Aitken at 9 anyway!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Dark Arts Advocate on August 29, 2018, 09:39:41 AM
As provocative as ever somethings never change.. will keep things interesting if nothing else.
At least you have several more clubs this season to use your charms on ????



Dont know how you have time to be on this forum DK?

I thought you would be out extoring money from 7 year olds, ensuring that there is enough in the coffers, to entertain BRB and the other Scarborough fat cats, in February!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Dropkicker on August 30, 2018, 12:16:41 PM
That's way to criptic for all but 2/3 people on this forum I think DAA so no point in dignifying it with an answer.
Other than to say you could of course apply for the role!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Red Horseman on August 30, 2018, 12:22:45 PM
Please, please teach him how to use the quote function properly before going any further  ::)
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Dark Arts Advocate on August 30, 2018, 02:36:29 PM
Please, please teach him how to use the quote function properly before going any further  ::)
[somebody needs to!!/quote]
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: backrowbandit on September 23, 2018, 08:46:00 AM
After 4 rounds this summer thread already makes interesting reading... BUT still very early days ..
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: NorthEast1_fan on September 24, 2018, 03:42:32 PM
A bit of input from a Durham/North perspective:

Our 3 teams have started well (Morpeth in particular unbeaten). Consett, although results haven't gone their way have played some good rugby by all accounts and should pick up some home wins certainly. Some points on their travels will be needed at some stage though.

A few returning local lads mixed with some upcoming colts have boosted Morpeth's squad this year and signs so far are encouraging. I was at the game last weekend and despite them not playing particularly well, they dug in and won with the last kick of the game. B&B played well and can't see them battling it out at the bottom come end of the season.

Percy Park again doing OK with only defeat coming to the two top teams. Still a few bodies to come back and see them being near the top come the end of the season.

Here's my title predictions after only a hand full of games:

1, Pocklington
2, Morpeth
3, York
4, Driffield
5, Brid
6, WL
7, Scarborough
8, Percy P
9,  YMCA
10, B&B
11, Morley
12, Cleckheaton
13, Consett
14, M&N

Close run thing with anyone beating everyone at some stage!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Dropkicker on October 14, 2018, 03:33:08 PM
My early prediction for champions.. by a distance is.


YORK.

They have spent some serious $$$ on more assistant coaches (10 coaches coaching 5 players!) and will be comfortably the best team in the league.





Not quite sure how to move a quote from one thread to another so will have to post this here rather than under " surprises".
My "nick" last year for BRB was "the all seeing, all knowing oracle" A handle that without argument must be fact given his post pre - season. Whilst he won't admit it it was his a diversionary tactic as usual to take the spotlight off Scabs, and was probably said very tongue in cheek.
I'm a bit out of the loop at York at the moment but am delighted with the start to the season which I must admit has taken me a little by surprise.
I think it would be fair to say we are where we are with 95% plus of our squad from last season, with additions mainly coming from returning past players. This in addition to an horrific injury list in the first 4/5 games has made our start even more of a pleasant surprise to me. The additions to the
coaching team have obviously made a difference and testament must go to our Head coach and Director of Rugby (both volunteers) for having the foresight. Ensuring your coaching team evolves is just as important as player development, we (York) must ensure this continues regardless of where finish in the league this year.
Next weeks game at Scabs whilst won't be a season defining game will be tough test for both teams. We had a narrow win there last season, a similar narrow win of course be great however I have a sneaky feeling Scabs may just me the team to beat this season. Of course "The Lord of the Forum" will argue otherwise.
Just another thought to throw out there. I am of the opinion that no team in local derby's involving ourselves, Scabs, Pock, Driff, Malton or Brid will win both there home and away fixture against each. Big call I know but if proves correct the league will most definitely go down to the wire.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: backrowbandit on October 14, 2018, 03:45:19 PM
That reminds me I need to update Beasts from the East...
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: backrowbandit on February 21, 2019, 05:34:46 PM
1 Morley
2 Driffield
3 Pocklington
4 West Leeds
5 York
6 Morpeth
7 Percy Park
8 Bradford & Bingley
9 Cleckheaton
10 Malton
11 Bridlington
12 Consett
13 Huddersfield
14 Scarborough

The predicted bottom club has over performed!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Dark Arts Advocate on February 22, 2019, 04:26:32 PM
1 Morley
2 Driffield
3 Pocklington
4 West Leeds
5 York
6 Morpeth
7 Percy Park
8 Bradford & Bingley
9 Cleckheaton
10 Malton
11 Bridlington
12 Consett
13 Huddersfield
14 Scarborough

The predicted bottom club has over performed!
Is he called the Timber Jedi because his head is made of wood?

that might explain his predictions!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: NorthEast1_fan on March 20, 2019, 03:22:57 PM
Shows the competitiveness of this league! Everyone beating anyone at some stage and no one has come close to a solid league prediction.

Still plenty of rugby left...who will crack under the pressure??? Think this weekend could be a massive indicator as to which side will be crowned champions!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: backrowbandit on March 20, 2019, 04:16:57 PM
Morpeth are champions
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Johnosjstrap on March 20, 2019, 05:42:10 PM
Yawn.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: backrowbandit on March 20, 2019, 05:44:17 PM
Who exactly will they lose to??
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Johnosjstrap on March 20, 2019, 05:53:21 PM
Away to Pock? Hardly a gimme?
Morley........fairly sure they've something to play for?
Driff are always good and who travels up Consett hill without continuously peeping over their shoulder?

A more educated man than I may suggest you're trying to divert pressure from the puckering  of nervous nipsies way out East.

Big weekend coming up for all.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: backrowbandit on March 20, 2019, 06:26:36 PM
I'm not hiding it.....I'm very nervous. Morley haven't lost in months!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: NorthEast1_fan on March 21, 2019, 04:17:25 PM
Should be a cracker!

Wins for Morley and Morpeth would make it a battle for 2nd with Morpeth doing well to let a 7/8/9 pt lead slip!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Pristine Shorts on March 21, 2019, 06:32:19 PM
Looking to be a very tasty finish.... will Scarborough put the Maroons to the sword ? Toughest game of the Season by the look of it, certainly from a promotion point of view.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Dark Arts Advocate on March 21, 2019, 07:08:54 PM
Looking to be a very tasty finish.... will Scarborough put the Maroons to the sword ? Toughest game of the Season by the look of it, certainly from a promotion point of view.
Doubt Scarborough will come away with anything more than 2 losing bonus points! That however will probably be enough come the end of the season.
The thing is they could really do with home advantage in the playoffs. So 1 losing bonus point might be enough. But anything less and an away playoff beckons!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: backrowbandit on March 21, 2019, 09:12:04 PM
Agree with all of that
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: avinastella on March 21, 2019, 09:51:25 PM
Looking at latest Disciplinary report and it seems Scarborough were on the naughty step.
What did they do?
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: backrowbandit on March 22, 2019, 07:58:15 AM
I could provide you a 20 minute forensic video which clearly explains the reaction of the players and crowd..... however the matter is closed.

As a club we will give feedback to the referees society at the end of season.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Master_Knowledge on March 22, 2019, 08:56:13 AM
Always closed and not to be discussed when it's your boys eh. Always a video or some other proof that proves your angels.

Anyway nice to see you tear yourself away from the restructuring long enough to comment on something else.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Dan Nulty on March 22, 2019, 09:04:09 AM
Always closed and not to be discussed when it's your boys eh. Always a video or some other proof that proves your angles.


Fair challenge.  Corrected the spelling of angles as well MK, unless BRB does actually believe in angels.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Master_Knowledge on March 22, 2019, 10:45:09 AM
I meant angels as in the winged things apparently sent from god.

As in their behaviour is angelic.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: torquil on March 22, 2019, 10:52:19 AM
If the Scarborough disciplinary matter relates to their home match v Pocklington may I make the following observations:

On entering the ground, I received the distinct impression that the home side felt that all they had to do was turn up to take the game from their lowly opposition. This impression was further reinforced following Pocklington's inability to score after being camped in the Scarborough 22 for the first 15 minutes.

The referee was playing the laws in a different way to what the home side was expecting. The home captain allowed this to go on for too long before he first started questioning the official. This led to both frustration mounting within his team, and a belligerent manner in his communication with the referee. It is a known fact that in this league referees from different associations officiate in different ways. Scarborough's failure to deal with this was the single main factor in their defeat. It was also noted that one of the Scarborough replacements became involved in an argumentative discussion with a Pocklington supporter towards the end of the first half. I know from my own sporting days that once you lose 100% concentration in the game in hand then you are beaten.

Both these points will be doubtless confirmed by the forensic Scarborough video evidence. I have no doubt that as well as showing the alleged elbow to the face  made by the Pocklington scrum half, it will also highlight the disgraceful behaviour meted out by elements of the home crowd to the visiting 18 year old fly half as he prepared for, and missed, his conversions.  There is no place for that in any sport, let alone this fine game. Doubtless it will also show the thuggish challenge (I won't call it a tackle) made on the Pocklington prop in the first minutes of the game causing him to leave the field of play. The sort of video evidence normally found on Saturday night town centre CCTV footage.

Silver Royd is a fine ground and Scarborough is a fine community rugby club. To become a great club they need to acquire the quality of dignity in defeat.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: backrowbandit on March 22, 2019, 11:01:05 AM
A considered post. Obviously I would disagree with most of it but everyone observes the same events from different perspectives.

Over the last couple of decades Scarborough have had plenty of practice of losing with dignity!

Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Master_Knowledge on March 22, 2019, 12:50:26 PM
You normally disappear from the ground without a trace when you lose if what I've been told is true!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Dark Arts Advocate on March 22, 2019, 06:56:58 PM
If the Scarborough disciplinary matter relates to their home match v Pocklington may I make the following observations:

On entering the ground, I received the distinct impression that the home side felt that all they had to do was turn up to take the game from their lowly opposition. This impression was further reinforced following Pocklington's inability to score after being camped in the Scarborough 22 for the first 15 minutes.

The referee was playing the laws in a different way to what the home side was expecting. The home captain allowed this to go on for too long before he first started questioning the official. This led to both frustration mounting within his team, and a belligerent manner in his communication with the referee. It is a known fact that in this league referees from different associations officiate in different ways. Scarborough's failure to deal with this was the single main factor in their defeat. It was also noted that one of the Scarborough replacements became involved in an argumentative discussion with a Pocklington supporter towards the end of the first half. I know from my own sporting days that once you lose 100% concentration in the game in hand then you are beaten.

Both these points will be doubtless confirmed by the forensic Scarborough video evidence. I have no doubt that as well as showing the alleged elbow to the face  made by the Pocklington scrum half, it will also highlight the disgraceful behaviour meted out by elements of the home crowd to the visiting 18 year old fly half as he prepared for, and missed, his conversions.  There is no place for that in any sport, let alone this fine game. Doubtless it will also show the thuggish challenge (I won't call it a tackle) made on the Pocklington prop in the first minutes of the game causing him to leave the field of play. The sort of video evidence normally found on Saturday night town centre CCTV footage.

Silver Royd is a fine ground and Scarborough is a fine community rugby club. To become a great club they need to acquire the quality of dignity in defeat.
I had posted a similar list plus more with regard to a Pocklington team member experience on the day. My post was taken down by the Scarborough moderating mafia and I was personally attacked for my vile slurs!
The truth is the ref is a local to North Yorkshire and Scarborough obviously got the wrong side of him, which doesn’t help the players or the vociferous boo boys who occupy the balcony. Scarborough need to sort out the wheat from the chaff otherwise there will always be potential for reoccurrences which I am sure they nor the team are hosting will want to see!
They let themselves down as did their Captain. The problem is you can’t learn from your mistakes unless you are prepared to acknowledge you were wrong!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Dark Arts Advocate on March 22, 2019, 07:10:47 PM
You normally disappear from the ground without a trace when you lose if what I've been told is true!
That won’t have happened many times this season!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: torquil on March 22, 2019, 07:26:56 PM
As BRB so correctly says in his reply to my post "everyone observes the same events from different perspectives".

I was there, my posting was made from my perspective.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Dark Arts Advocate on March 24, 2019, 02:40:39 PM
So a Morpeth 5 point win v Driffield will allow them to be crowned as champions away at Consett the following week.
The last home game of their season v Morley will then be a dead rubber to them but not to Morley, who will be hunting down any Scarborough failures or frailties!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: stubbs on March 25, 2019, 11:07:17 AM
It is probably time for the players of all sides to start listening to referees and not questioning decisions en mass. I would probably advocate players not being able to talk to referees at all during a game. Certainly on Saturday there were West Leeds players in the referees ear at numerous times during the game particularly when they were under pressure at scrums. I do agree that referees from different societies referee games differently. Our 3 best referees have been on exchanges this season. As for the boo boys on the balcony at Scarborough they were in evidence when York were there earlier in the season trying to intimidate the York kicker. There is no room for them in Rugby Union and I am sure Scarborough's committee will bear that in mind 
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Pristine Shorts on March 25, 2019, 11:41:33 AM
It looks pretty interesting in Durham/Northumberland One - the top three are on 104, 103 and 102 points. The big game is Durham City v West Hartlepool, a double-pointer if ever there was one. And it looks as if it will be Heath playing the loser in the play-offs to see who'll be coming into N1E next season, along with Morpeth and Carlisle.

And I wonder whether it will be Scarborough or Morley that will be welcoming them.....
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Dark Arts Advocate on March 25, 2019, 02:14:23 PM
It looks pretty interesting in Durham/Northumberland One - the top three are on 104, 103 and 102 points. The big game is Durham City v West Hartlepool, a double-pointer if ever there was one. And it looks as if it will be Heath playing the loser in the play-offs to see who'll be coming into N1E next season, along with Morpeth and Carlisle.

And I wonder whether it will be Scarborough or Morley that will be welcoming them.....
or Blackburn!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Pristine Shorts on March 25, 2019, 02:28:19 PM
Indeed ! Forgot about them....
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Dark Arts Advocate on March 26, 2019, 08:13:47 AM
It is probably time for the players of all sides to start listening to referees and not questioning decisions en mass. I would probably advocate players not being able to talk to referees at all during a game. Certainly on Saturday there were West Leeds players in the referees ear at numerous times during the game particularly when they were under pressure at scrums. I do agree that referees from different societies referee games differently. Our 3 best referees have been on exchanges this season. As for the boo boys on the balcony at Scarborough they were in evidence when York were there earlier in the season trying to intimidate the York kicker. There is no room for them in Rugby Union and I am sure Scarborough's committee will bear that in mind
I agree with your sentiments Stubbs but players are actually coached to draw the attention of the referee to incidents in play and particularly around the breakdown area. I suppose you would call it appealing as in football, trying to secure your team an advantage. The problem being is some players don’t have the nounce to use it in a positive way and it becomes direct criticism of the referee and if everyone is at it, it can become a free for all.
Back to the good old days for me! Where only the captain and pack leader may approach the referee to enquirer as to a decision or draw the the attention of the referee to law infringements that are going unpunished!
Everyone else on notice that any verbal infringement would lead to a penalty and or additional sanctions being awarded against them for repeat offences.
But I suspect too much water has passed under that bridge!!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Pristine Shorts on March 26, 2019, 09:59:55 AM
Aka The Good Old Days, DAA.....
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Play On on March 26, 2019, 11:25:31 AM
It is probably time for the players of all sides to start listening to referees and not questioning decisions en mass. I would probably advocate players not being able to talk to referees at all during a game. Certainly on Saturday there were West Leeds players in the referees ear at numerous times during the game particularly when they were under pressure at scrums. I do agree that referees from different societies referee games differently. Our 3 best referees have been on exchanges this season. As for the boo boys on the balcony at Scarborough they were in evidence when York were there earlier in the season trying to intimidate the York kicker. There is no room for them in Rugby Union and I am sure Scarborough's committee will bear that in mind
I agree with your sentiments Stubbs but players are actually coached to draw the attention of the referee to incidents in play and particularly around the breakdown area. I suppose you would call it appealing as in football, trying to secure your team an advantage. The problem being is some players don’t have the nounce to use it in a positive way and it becomes direct criticism of the referee and if everyone is at it, it can become a free for all.
Back to the good old days for me! Where only the captain and pack leader may approach the referee to enquirer as to a decision or draw the the attention of the referee to law infringements that are going unpunished!
Everyone else on notice that any verbal infringement would lead to a penalty and or additional sanctions being awarded against them for repeat offences.
But I suspect too much water has passed under that bridge!!
Agree with both of you as i too have seen a couple of times the 80 mins+ forensics from the Scabs v Pock game and the Scabs captain and 9 were appealing from min 1 (been doing it all game ref lol) which for any referee they will and should enforce game values so the sooner players get used to that the better the game is usually. The best captains manage their team discipline but there are a lot more who even their coaches question whether they have the right captain. How many pens in a game do you see for this and how many lead to YCs or higher when the captain can't handle their own players appealing. Will be tight between Scabs and Morley and it could be fine margins so discipline could be key. Best of luck to both clubs
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Dark Arts Advocate on March 26, 2019, 12:25:03 PM
The simple fact it is the clubs power to modify player behavior towards referees.
But who is going to do that if it is disadvantageous to your side.
The top level of the game pundits revel in how players like McCall and others are in the referees ear all the time. I accept he was a captain but he was OTT for me.
I do think a directive should come out from RFU to clubs that they will have a significant change in direction and support the referee to take some unnecessary chat out of the game. That may also involve re-education for some of the fans who possibly read but then totally ignore codes of conduct etc carried in most programmes.
Otherwise I regret to say we will slide towards some unwanted disorder amongst supporters which I see as inevitable unless we see some true leadership and re-establish traditional values like respecting the kicker etc!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: avinastella on March 26, 2019, 01:03:59 PM
The simple fact it is the clubs power to modify player behavior towards referees.
But who is going to do that if it is disadvantageous to your side.
The top level of the game pundits revel in how players like McCall and others are in the referees ear all the time. I accept he was a captain but he was OTT for me.
I do think a directive should come out from RFU to clubs that they will have a significant change in direction and support the referee to take some unnecessary chat out of the game. That may also involve re-education for some of the fans who possibly read but then totally ignore codes of conduct etc carried in most programmes.
Otherwise I regret to say we will slide towards some unwanted disorder amongst supporters which I see as inevitable unless we see some true leadership and re-establish traditional values like respecting the kicker etc!
If i can come in on this. Yes, it is in a clubs power to modify a players behaviour towards the Referee.
It is NOT disadvanteous to do so.

I've no idea what went on at Scarbs/Pock match other than whats posted on here. If the spectators have been getting a bit giddy it will and does rub off onto the more excitable payers. Thus the downward spiral begins. If this is the case, i'm surprised and suspect the club will indeed attempt to rectify the situation with the services offered by RH himself.

I know the Referees society have had presentaions from RH tailored towards their standpoint in a game.
RH makes himself available to any club who wish to avail themselves of his services in Referee/game management from a player/club perspective. I can personally say the presentations are excellent, topical and worth a saving of several penalty decisions per match. As we all know, that can be the difference between winning and losing. When a club loses due to backchat it only adds to the downward spiral.

When RH gave the presentations to us we also got feedback from the Society Sec. To us it was proof positive the presentations are worth it.

It's all about human nature and reinforcing of beliefs.
If a ref thinks your team or players are paragons of virtue, you will be treated as such.
If however, the Ref perceives you to be gobby and always backchatting, he will also treat you aas such. So with regard to those 50/50 calls that occur in ALL games, which way do you think they are likel/possibly going to go??

Bottom line, best training session any club can hold is the presention from RH.
And no, i'm not on commission.
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Red Horseman on March 26, 2019, 01:52:57 PM
Indeed, the irony is not lost on me Stella ! Thank you for your kind words though...
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Dark Arts Advocate on April 01, 2019, 11:51:09 AM
All over bar the shouting!

Though I suspect Consett will do everything in their power to spoil the Morpeth party!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: NorthEast1_fan on April 01, 2019, 12:58:35 PM
Could be squeaky bum time vs Morley the following week if they managed to pull off an upset!

I think most would agree that they deserve to get the job done this weekend with the 3rd best attack (as it stands),  most wins and by far the best defence this season!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: backrowbandit on April 01, 2019, 01:20:26 PM
Over the course of a season the table rarely lies...
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: NorthEast1_fan on April 01, 2019, 02:25:16 PM
You'd hope not!

Missed BP's may cost them!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: Dark Arts Advocate on April 05, 2019, 04:42:07 PM
Whilst I have little doubt Scarbars will finish in second place.
I suspect that M and N will do everything in their power to stop Scarbs. Any win would do!
Whilst not stopping them qualify for the play off, it might put them on the road to Blackburn, if they hold their nerve and finish with 2 five point wins!
Down to the wire at the top and the bottom!
Title: Re: Champions...
Post by: omigidiant on April 05, 2019, 08:50:13 PM
It's Scarborough's to lose and I don't think Malton will have the right answers and Scabs will come through with flying colours.