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Other Senior Rugby / Re: RFU North Review
« on: Today at 02:28:49 PM »
That’s a good map.

Took some doing, but it's been up a while now.
Hence the frustration when clubs/people suggest, all with the best intentions, geographical options without looking at the fuller picture. Day/time of travel also needs to be taken into account. Google quite accurately gives the facility to check. Saturday lunchtime is busier than many people realise.
It also shows how some of the feedback 'received' is, at best, tenuous.

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Other Senior Rugby / Re: RFU North Review
« on: Today at 12:40:00 PM »
For anyone at last nights meeting interested in the 1 hour travel time 'target' being put forward. the Map below might help clarify how this clearly isn't possible for many clubs.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&mid=1tkEQbaJiNAQGG07gFZ-Yy7yqwlU&ll=54.42277652081049%2C-2.1807754525390237&z=10

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Yorkshire 2 / Re: Scores 12th Jan
« on: Yesterday at 04:06:02 PM »
Proposals can be found on this page http://lancashirerfu.pitchero.com/news/rfu-league-north-proposed-structures-25587/

Option A and C sees no relegation.  Not sure how promotion/relegation would work for option E.

Not sure there is an answer that will appease everyone.  Be interesting to see what happens but I doubt very much whether the changes would come in to place for next season as time is running out.

On to Saturday, much improved performance from us with some people returning from injuries.  I just wish we could put the same side out each week but unavailabilities are preventing us building up any rhythm.

Good to see Mark and Hobbo from Barnsley, two solid gents in the game.
You doubt wrong Dan

Next season is exactly what they are looking at.

Sorting out the counting errors will cause a problem, as will the no promotion/relegation.
The cynic in me says they've presented the options in such a way the Prom/Rel clubs appealing will cause the 12 vote option to go through - which is what they've pushed for for years - contrary to what most clubs in the north want.

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Yorkshire 2 / Re: Scores 12th Jan
« on: Yesterday at 06:46:22 AM »
Some unexpected results, especially the Sea Anglers winning at Goole, Leos seem to be on a roll, was it one of sunshine's vegan sausage rolls?. Yorkshire one claim to be the best level 7 league in the country, probably true but our league isn't bad either.
Perhaps they’ve seen the proposed league restructure options and thought “what’s the point?”

Regarding Y1. It’s usually folks outside Y1 that big it up but evidence does tend to support the claim. Teams moving up from Y2 seem to do ok so that suggests Y2 is no easy ride either.

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North One / Re: Coaches hissie-fit. Quiz time!
« on: January 14, 2019, 11:55:42 AM »
This raises a point from our last home game, the ref allowed a prop back onto the field 90 seconds after sin binning him because he was the 2nd of the front row
to be binned and the opposition only had one front row replacement, scrums continued as opposed rather than unopposed. They had to take off another player ie 13 on the pitch. is this a correct interpretation of the rules anybody?
The attached might help.

But no, payer leaves due to a card, he ain't allowed back on until the 10 mins is up.
Remember watching Wayne Barnes threaten nick Easter with binning prop after prop if they transgressed again.


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Yorkshire 1 / Predictions Week 17
« on: January 13, 2019, 04:54:35 PM »
Beverley    vs    Guisborough
Bradford Salem    vs    Moortown
Dinnington    vs    Old Brodleians
Heath    vs    Pontefract
Hullensians    vs    Old Rishworthians
Keighley    vs    Middlesbrough
Old Crossleyans    vs    Selby

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North One / Re: Coaches hissie-fit. Quiz time!
« on: January 13, 2019, 12:32:27 PM »
Glad said coach is not a traffic policeman - he would be giving us all points for speeding just because our cars can go over 70 mph irrespective of if we ever speed. Glad the ref showed common sense.

Wonder what the reaction would have been if "injured" sub was needed to come onto the pitch and limped off after one scrum - that is when the debate should have started and maybe the coach was just raising this to the refs attention in case that did happen ?
Would be compliant though.

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: Best in the West
« on: January 13, 2019, 10:53:12 AM »
Results updated.

Special mention for Brucey.  :D :D

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: The bigger picture
« on: January 12, 2019, 09:39:46 PM »
I've personally haven't visited Moortown, however I have heard that the club is a little run down and in need of little return but Moortown players and officials clearly feel proud of their club and so they should. Top of the league with somw great wins behind them and that winning momentum should see them crowned champions.

With that said, are the rfu laws for level 6 and below that no players are to be paid. Clearly the Cash is being splashed and this is a big advantage over other teams in the league who are following the rules and are not paying players.
You might want to spend some time and read the regulations more carefully.
As always, the devil is in the detail.

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: The bigger picture
« on: January 12, 2019, 09:11:04 PM »
Let's have another.
Assuming Moortown (or who ever) finishes top. How will you feel if you don't get promoted because some committee feel they know best and 12 team Leagues are the way to go?
Ah, you missed the I

All we can do is win the league! What will be will be.
You are aware they are proposing no promotion this season?

Fully aware of everything Andrew! Proposals are just that...
No worries, just pointing out the double standards in their desperate attempt to placate those who walked away. And yes, those clubs have their reasons but to pull a fast one like they are doing is somewhat dodgy.

Of the 3 proposals only 1 would result in no promotion. I would think option 1 or 3 would make most sense IMO as it probably involves less “hassle”.

Ha, you missed the options D & E the followed up with then

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: The bigger picture
« on: January 12, 2019, 08:53:40 PM »
Let's have another.
Assuming Moortown (or who ever) finishes top. How will you feel if you don't get promoted because some committee feel they know best and 12 team Leagues are the way to go?

All we can do is win the league! What will be will be.
You are aware they are proposing no promotion this season?

Fully aware of everything Andrew! Proposals are just that...
No worries, just pointing out the double standards in their desperate attempt to placate those who walked away. And yes, those clubs have their reasons but to pull a fast one like they are doing is somewhat dodgy.

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: The bigger picture
« on: January 12, 2019, 08:47:35 PM »
Let's have another.
Assuming Moortown (or who ever) finishes top. How will you feel if you don't get promoted because some committee feel they know best and 12 team Leagues are the way to go?

All we can do is win the league! What will be will be.
You are aware they are proposing no promotion this season?

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: The bigger picture
« on: January 12, 2019, 08:43:00 PM »
Let's have another go.
Assuming Moortown (or who ever) finishes top. How will you feel if you don't get promoted because some committee feel they know best and 12 team Leagues are the way to go?

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: The bigger picture
« on: January 12, 2019, 08:14:08 PM »
One of the the proposals being put forward by the RFU will mean no promotion this season.

Worth thinking through.

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Other Senior Rugby / Re: RFU North Review
« on: January 11, 2019, 10:16:28 PM »
I think that option is to highlight why there has to be an element of travel which seems to be one of the complaints given by players for not wanting to play. It is there to make a point and no other reason other than after thought to tag it on.
Not what they said in November. Yes, it would be folly, but.....  ::)

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