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Yorkshire 2 / Re: Quality of refereeing at Yorkshire 2
« on: March 12, 2017, 07:45:02 PM »
Guys, lets be honest here, the number of offenses committed by most teams at Yorkshire 2 level could give the referee the opportunity to blow his (or her) whistle 3 or 4 times a minute.  :-[
That is the level of the game at which we are playing.
If you go up one level, the quality of the players change and the offenses goes down.
A referee has to either stamp down on offenses early in a game, in the hope the players learn their lessons, or (and this happens more the lower down the leagues you go) let some things go to help with the flow of the game.

Lower league players don't tend to learn from being penalised, because they don't see what they did wrong, so repeat the same offense several times. High quality players might think they were in the right, but change the way they play to suit the referee . . . .
That is the difference in player skill level and attitude.

So, in summary, if you want a better referee, play at a higher level.
If you don't learn from your mistakes, expect to be 'pinged' every time you offend.

My opinion only  ;D
Cheers, MR  ;)

I completely agree - the point I am trying to make is the inconsistency not just between refs, but actually within the same game - for example calling one decision, then not calling the same decision for the same offence: it just seems to be for me, that this season, the break down has been the main area for this. I apologise if the points I am making aren't well written to understand - I was generally interested in knowing people's views. If people's views are different to me own, then okay.

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Yorkshire 2 / Re: Quality of refereeing at Yorkshire 2
« on: March 12, 2017, 07:40:48 PM »
Task I will say that the ref is a good bloke always referees fair think in yesterday's game he did miss a few things but for both sides . Is overall game was decent I do like how the refs have stopped players talking to them until they are ready to it shows authority on the pitch 🏉 Really enjoyed the game a little sore today , is there anywhere we can see the video evidence 😂

The discussion is for overall experiences this season, not just yesterday mate. With regards to speaking to the ref directly, will always agree with that. However, penalising for general comments or speaking to the captain over calls disagreed with, and not directly to refs, is something again that has happened a lot this season in my opinion.

This isn't a bashing - rather general thoughts on the matter as a whole. Im not in charge of the video evidence - convenient I know  ::)

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Yorkshire 2 / Re: Quality of refereeing at Yorkshire 2
« on: March 12, 2017, 06:53:48 PM »


Before anyone says, I will fully admit I am a bit sour about it, especially because I was the one penalised at the end for legally competing for the ball at the breakdown, being the second man in and being on my feet for at least 10 seconds

Having played with & against you I'd agree off your feet was probably the right call...

 ;D  ;) normally I wouldn't disagree but this time there is video evidence

I hope you'd done your hair before getting on camera

Gave it a little flick. See you in 2 weeks, hope the family is well.


Edited the post to make it more overall; it wasn't a bad game, certainly not the best. If interpretations were correct then it would have been a whole lot better; Thorne may have won by more points, we could have edged it, who knows? But I just feel that because we are of a lower level, the standard sometimes isn't taken seriously as it should. Yes, reffing should be better the higher up you go, but that shouldn't mean the standard should drop lower down. Perhaps it should be easier to ref when the standard's lower?

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Yorkshire 2 / Re: Quality of refereeing at Yorkshire 2
« on: March 12, 2017, 06:38:51 PM »


Before anyone says, I will fully admit I am a bit sour about it, especially because I was the one penalised at the end for legally competing for the ball at the breakdown, being the second man in and being on my feet for at least 10 seconds

Having played with & against you I'd agree off your feet was probably the right call...

 ;D  ;) normally I wouldn't disagree but this time there is video evidence

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Yorkshire 2 / Re: Quality of refereeing at Yorkshire 2
« on: March 12, 2017, 06:30:59 PM »
Disgraceful thread.

All entitled to our own opinions, including me.

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Yorkshire 2 / Re: Quality of refereeing at Yorkshire 2
« on: March 12, 2017, 06:27:12 PM »
I have had a go myself, I'm not saying it is an easy job to do, but if you are expected to ref, you are expected to to ref to a good standard. On the subject of myself, I was penalised after allowing to play to carry on for 2 - 3 phrases, before pulling it back. No mention during, no warning. Again, this was the same for both sides yesterday, hence my opinion on referees' ability to ref the break-down correctly at this level, because it seems to be an ongoing issue talking to many supporters and players from clubs.

 

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Yorkshire 2 / Quality of refereeing at Yorkshire 2
« on: March 12, 2017, 05:45:00 PM »
I feel this is a topic in need of discussion.

I personally have felt the quality of refereeing this year has been as lack-luster as the new series of Top Gear. Yesterday was a perfect example, as it has often been this season: not interpreting the break-down correctly (allowing players to hold on the deck, then penalizing the competing player for eventually being off their feet), penalizing players for asking their captains to have a word, because it was 'about their authority on the pitch' even though nothing was directly said to them, and could not offer a reason for at least 2 penalties given when asked by players. Are Yorkshire RFU getting it wrong when training refs? Should they be assessed more often for the level they ref, not just when they wish to push on through the leagues?

Before anyone says, I will fully admit I am a bit sour about it, especially because I was the one penalised at the end for legally competing for the ball at the breakdown, being the second man in and being on my feet for at least 10 seconds, but this isn't a reason why we lost to Thorne yesterday because if they had kicked all their penalties, we would have lost by more than 1 point, which is on us. Thorne took their chances and deserved their victory. But it does beg the question how awful decisions can affect the game for both side, because that is exactly what the standard of refereeing did yesterday and has done quite a few times this season.

It would be good to get people's opinions on this as I feel a lot of referees at this level make it more about themselves rather than the game. The best ref for us in my opinion this year was a female referee who was brilliant and who was all about the game.

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Merit Leagues / Re: New motorway required to Scarborough
« on: November 23, 2014, 01:57:04 PM »
Anyone been checking the radio-waves for their Morse code messages?  ::)

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Yorkshire 2 / Re: Assault of Barnsley player?
« on: October 05, 2014, 08:49:03 AM »
Everything is being sorted, but said player will no longer be playing at the club.

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: Serious for once
« on: September 23, 2014, 07:09:48 AM »
Imagine if you were as good at rugby as you are pulling peoples spelling and punctuation to bits, wath would have a real super star in there ranks!!!

I could say the same about your fitness NB  ::)

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: Falling standards.
« on: September 22, 2014, 07:38:18 PM »
People can't take criticism old fella. With £oncaster £heonix now unable to refute any matters of paying players, it's just not that fun anymore to take the Michael out of them :(

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: Serious for once
« on: September 22, 2014, 07:34:53 PM »
My dear old Vetterinary

The thought of crafty canines cap(p)ering ( rearranged to avoid censor) circa midnight in clawed crevices appeals very much to my sense of silliness. However.... I could be barking up the wrong tree but your lifting my leg so here is a tale of truth for you!!

We had a similar problem at ours so we erected at much cost a steel gate replete with padlock. This was good. When the gate was open for say delivery of beer, dustbin day, training etc etc the phlebitis ridden hate filled (strangely all female) poodle patrol came in thinking our grounds were publicly owned and they could abuse them. This was bad.

We therefore at more cost installed CCTV with signs saying no dirty bitches and guess what.. that didnt stop them either.

So I managed to capure the main culprit on film and downloaded a photograph from the DVR with her pooch in flagrante delicto. Added the photo to two A4s with place date times and nature of her behaviour and established where she lived (in a large house half a  mile away). I posted one A4 on the telegraph pole outside her house and the other with a plastic package of personalised poodle parcels through her letter box. I got an apology from her doctor husband within days and she hasnt been back. So CCTV is about dog walkers not dogs.. do you see?

Here is something else for you. The redoubtable A Beach esq at Not Tingley had a similar problem and approached the authorities with vigour. After much effort he was provided with a permanent erection which he is very happy about. Takes him longer to get the ground as he cant sneak in the rear entrance anymore and keeps the local ladies and their hairy accompaniments firmly at arms length.

So dont hide your problem, stand proud and ask for help.You may end up with a new ground...

Must go the butler says Beachy is on the croquet lawn holding and chopper and thinks he has the dog on ....

Your attempt to use the English language hurts my eyes! :o

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: Serious for once
« on: September 19, 2014, 05:56:30 PM »
If the YRFU have such concerns for our pitches, maybe they should help us acquire our own. With the cricket season ending and starting within the rugby season, we have to play some games across the road to compensate. We have the first team pitch back this week.

We are currently trying to acquire our pitch, which has taken 18 months so far. Needless to say its been a long drawn out process with the council. But with it being public access, there is nothing we can do except do our best to make it playable on Saturday mornings.

Sorry it doesn't meets Pontys requirements, but Im pretty sure the 10 unanswered punches from your prop doesn't meet ours on a Saturday afternoon either.

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: Y1 match reports. Good, bad and the none existent.
« on: September 17, 2014, 05:00:07 PM »
Wath used to be excellent - with reports and photos from every game. Just had a look on their website and there has only been one item added in the last 3 months.

My missus did the website last year, but with starting a new job it takes a little longer than it used to. But will get done.

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: Scores, results and match reports. Week 2
« on: September 14, 2014, 08:11:35 AM »
I wouldn't say we have greater concerns. Veteran was right about the the unavailability of players, we started out with 2 backrow on the wings and ended with a back row and second row. That was down to genuine reasons.

Scarborough was sharp to highlight this and take advantage out wide where again, our drift from the inside didnt allow our 3 backs to drift. We had a lot more possession and didnt do anything with it until we started playing again in the last 20 minutes, then we looked overall the better team during it.

Scarboroughs back very clinical on the strike running and their forwards gave a good platform for them to perform. But I have to agree with Veteran that never at any point did I feel their forwards would create a try for themselves and I think may struggle when the game becomes tighter. That said, Scabs dominated the scrums due to their tight head, but once he went off they were pretty even.

I enjoyed regardless. Good food and a good bottle of port for the way home

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