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Coaching vacancies
« on: May 16, 2018, 11:58:34 AM »
The following clubs are advertising vacancies:

Huddersfield: backs (paid)
Baildon: head (salary & expenses to be discussed) and girls (unpaid)
DMP Sharks:: coach (expenses)
Medicals: head (paid)
North Ribs: playercoach (remuneration under RFU Reg 7.2)
Ripon: playercoach (remuneration)
York: backs (unstated) and womens' (unstated)
Chetser le Street: head (unstated)
Leeds Medics: head (unstated)
Newton Aycliffe: playercoach (unstated)
Richmondshire: playercoach (reasonable expenses and support package)
Ryton: playercoach (remuneration to be discussed)

Interesting that no club is prepared to state exactly what salaries / expenses / packages are defined or worth. Anybody have any idea what the current going rate is?

Playercoaches also seem to be in vogue. Never been entirely sure if these are a good or bad thing. Views?
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Re: Coaching vacancies
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2018, 01:50:24 PM »
I believe the Huddersfield vacancy is filled.

Information from another forum

Centre Mark Pease has stepped up to backs and attack coach.

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Re: Coaching vacancies
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2018, 02:04:07 PM »
I wonder what a support package is??
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Re: Coaching vacancies
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2018, 02:25:47 PM »
Something similar to a truss in old money. :P

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Re: Coaching vacancies
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2018, 02:43:57 PM »

Does that make it a truss fund?

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« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2018, 02:52:21 PM »
No doubt set up In that little known tax haven The Hernia Islands.

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Re: Coaching vacancies
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2018, 07:33:57 PM »
The following clubs are advertising vacancies:

Huddersfield: backs (paid)
Baildon: head (salary & expenses to be discussed) and girls (unpaid)
DMP Sharks:: coach (expenses)
Medicals: head (paid)
North Ribs: playercoach (remuneration under RFU Reg 7.2)
Ripon: playercoach (remuneration)
York: backs (unstated) and womens' (unstated)
Chetser le Street: head (unstated)
Leeds Medics: head (unstated)
Newton Aycliffe: playercoach (unstated)
Richmondshire: playercoach (reasonable expenses and support package)
Ryton: playercoach (remuneration to be discussed)

Interesting that no club is prepared to state exactly what salaries / expenses / packages are defined or worth. Anybody have any idea what the current going rate is?

Playercoaches also seem to be in vogue. Never been entirely sure if these are a good or bad thing. Views?

I'd have thought, like a lot of jobs, it would depend on previous experience etc.

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Re: Coaching vacancies
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2018, 08:01:44 PM »
Indeed. That's why jobs tend to advertise a starting amount, or a range subject to experience. Why so coy here?
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Re: Coaching vacancies
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2018, 08:37:48 PM »
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Come on red say it as it is . Clubs pay way more than they admit to... ... players and coaches . If that’s what they want to do I am in your camp.. clubs can do what they want if they have the money .

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Re: Coaching vacancies
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2018, 10:53:45 PM »
Where are all these vacancies advertised?
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« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2018, 07:52:41 AM »
Came to me in an email circular.

Yes Alf, I don't care at all. It just mystifies / amuses me that it has to be done via smoke and mirrors, which should be an automatic flag to someone that it might need looking into.
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Re: Coaching vacancies
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2018, 11:13:53 AM »
Nobody is going to give a figure when the RFU is trying to enforce a cap on the amount you can pay a player/coach next season. (Max of £10k at level 6 and 7 for instance).

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« Reply #12 on: May 17, 2018, 11:23:59 AM »
Nobody is going to give a figure when the RFU is trying to enforce a cap on the amount you can pay a player/coach next season. (Max of £10k at level 6 and 7 for instance).

The limit is a joke if clubs want to pay more they pay 10k for coaching and the rest for some other duties.

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« Reply #13 on: May 17, 2018, 11:51:54 AM »
Paying for other duties  would be classed as "material benefit." Clubs can pay what they like but are supposed to declare it and  would forego RFU grants and support etc.
It will be interesting to see how diligently they try to enforce it

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« Reply #14 on: May 17, 2018, 02:16:34 PM »
Paying for other duties  would be classed as "material benefit." Clubs can pay what they like but are supposed to declare it and  would forego RFU grants and support etc.
It will be interesting to see how diligently they try to enforce it

No if you employ someone to do two job, one coaching @ 10K and a second job to do something else that is not "material benefit". Material benefit as used by the RFU is I believe used to cover the provision of for example a car or accommodation or other benefits over and about the 10k where coaching is the employees only duty.

If a club employs someone to coach at 10k and also wants to also employ them as say a cleaner that is perfectly legal. The two job would need contacts of employment etc. If the RFU want to stop that situation with the 10k rule they could face a legal test as I believe that would be considered to be illegal both under employment law and would be in restraint of trade.