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Offline avinastella

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England Squad
« on: August 12, 2019, 01:19:56 PM »
To get the ball rolling.
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Squad in full
England Rugby World Cup squad announcement
Forwards:
Dan Cole (Leicester Tigers, 86 caps) **
Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs, 12 caps)
Tom Curry (Sale Sharks, 11 caps)
Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers, 10 caps)
Jamie George (Saracens, 37 caps) *
Maro Itoje (Saracens, 27 caps)
George Kruis (Saracens, 32 caps) *
Joe Launchbury (Wasps, 59 caps) *
Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints, 72 caps) **
Lewis Ludlam (Northampton Saints, 1 cap)
Joe Marler (Harlequins, 58 caps) *
Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins, 22 caps)
Jack Singleton (Saracens, 1 cap)
Sam Underhill (Bath Rugby, 9 caps)
Billy Vunipola (Saracens, 42 caps) *
Mako Vunipola (Saracens, 53 caps) *
Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons / Sale Sharks, 13 caps)

Backs:
Joe Cokanasiga (Bath Rugby, 5 caps)
Elliot Daly (Saracens, 31 caps)
Owen Barrel (Saracens, 70 caps) *
George Ford (Leicester Tigers, 56 caps) *
Piers Francis (Northampton Saints, 5 caps)
Willi Heinz (Gloucester Rugby, 1 cap)
Jonathan Joseph (Bath Rugby, 41 caps) *
Jonny May (Leicester Tigers, 45 caps) *
Ruaridh McConnochie (Bath Rugby, uncapped)
Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs, 33 caps) *
Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs, 22 caps) *
Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers, 33 caps) *
Anthony Watson (Bath Rugby, 34 caps) *
Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers, 86 caps) **
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Re: England Squad
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2019, 01:54:29 PM »
Think the forwards are the current pick of the crop if they stay injury free.

Not sure what Heinz and Francis bring to the party.

Hope somebody teaches Tuilagi when to offload after he punches through a defence.

One glaring omission.

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Re: England Squad
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2019, 09:55:05 PM »
Party line selection, won't win referee

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Re: England Squad
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2019, 06:15:11 PM »
I think we have an exciting squad, too many new faces and partnerships to win it I would think.

Piers Francis from what I have seen doesn't look an international 10 or centre so it must have pretty bad whatever Teo did or said to Brown. I'd much rather we played Daly at 13 then Francis. He is one of my favourite players but he isn't a 15.

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Re: England Squad
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2019, 07:36:18 PM »
Not sure if I am missing something, but Joseph isn't the player that he was a couple of years ago in my opinion. He could dance through a defence in the past, now always seems to get tied up.

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Re: England Squad
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2019, 05:06:18 PM »
Doing OK, workmanlike, grinding down the opposition. Just lacking the same touches of class as 2003 though.

Need Tuilagi and Billy Vunipola to have more of an impact though if going to beat new Zealand, very quiet against Aus.

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Re: England Squad
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2019, 11:34:13 AM »
Party line selection, won't win referee

Glad you're not on the selection committee

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Re: England Squad
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2019, 07:34:15 AM »
I was going to comment in a similar vain, but we haven't won anything yet. I really don't like how many times I have heard the media say on the brink of winning. 20 pts up, 5 minutes to go I'd accept it as on the brink.

Nervous.

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Re: England Squad
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2019, 05:36:03 PM »
Told you wouldn't win referee, 15 should have been dragged off after 20 minutes, also a winger that could run, what's point of taking a squad!!! there should have been 5/6 changes at half time. Anyway I know nothing.

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Re: England Squad
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2019, 05:50:33 PM »
SA were impressive they completely shut England down.

Did we peak against NZ?Absolutely.

For me the tone was set when Sinckler went off and Pollard caught his own kick followed by SA shoving us backwards in the scrum.All in the first 10 minutes.You could see England looked stunned, Daly isn’t the best fullback we have that’s a fact after this World Cup. Should have taken Cipriani for my money we needed something today a spark of magic and none of the back line provide that unfortunately. However the one glaring thing was the size difference between the two packs, sometimes you cannot negate brute force.

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Re: England Squad
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2019, 08:45:04 PM »
SA were only 20 kilos ,that’s 44 lbs in old money, heavier than Englandin the pack.
 Sorry but the better side won ,they won it when my granddaughter for whom we were in France babysitting for half term in Lyon said “ ooh la la le verte Neuf  est tres bonne” and she is only quatre ans.

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Re: England Squad
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2019, 08:47:12 PM »
Oh and YO9 she also said you talk b......s!
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Re: England Squad
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2019, 09:40:32 PM »
I may talk b......s but I said it on the 12th of Aug, not jumping on any band wagon.

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Re: England Squad
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2019, 09:51:28 PM »
We weren't favourites on Aug 12 so to say we wouldn't win it was hardly bold.

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Re: England Squad
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2019, 06:34:15 AM »
Sometimes in sport on a particular day it just doesn't go for you. Everything went well last week but this week after 5 mins I think everyone had that feeling it wasn't going to be our day. We could play the same match tomorrow and win by 20.

I think it was important for us to get ahead as SA had very little capacity to chase a game and all the firepower needed to maintain a lead.

What was very evident in the semi and final is that Jonny May was far from fit.

Losing a prop after 2 mins was a crushing blow at any level...it's been well documented that Dan Cole isn't conditioned to play 80mins. Although sinkler may not have added much in the scrum, he would have offered so much more elsewhere on the park.

All a bit deflating..but a good world cup all the same. Glad I'm not Scottish!
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