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Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« Reply #60 on: March 20, 2020, 01:01:45 PM »


  Update on the 2019/20 season
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Thu 19/03/2020 22:33

 


    

Message from RFU Chief Executive Bill Sweeney

My thoughts and those of all of us at the RFU are with everyone impacted by COVID-19 as well as recent flooding events, both across the country at large but also within our own rugby union community.

In order to provide clarity and to assist with immediate and longer term planning, the RFU is today announcing the end of the 2019/20 rugby season for all league, cup and county rugby in England. The only exception to this is the Gallagher Premiership, who we are in active discussions with to review possible best next steps.

When current government advice on social distancing measures changes, we will naturally encourage rugby training and friendlies to recommence.

I would like to personally thank everyone for their swift actions in suspending rugby activity, this is not an easy time and I know many of you will have concerns that go beyond the game.

We are working through the implications of ending the season early and have instigated a thorough process to ensure fair and balanced outcomes for the game. We will communicate these outcomes by the middle of April. While we would like to provide all the answers now, we need some time to get it right for the best interests of the game. Rest assured we are working on this as a priority and we will continue to send weekly updates to clubs.

The three areas of focus for the RFU right now are Welfare, Implications and Reboot.

Welfare

We are ensuring colleagues and communities are given support to follow government advice and are providing recommendations on how to stay fit and healthy using individual training programmes. We are also talking to government about how we can deploy and mobilise our own resources across England to support the vulnerable.

Implications

Every union is different, with unique structures and challenges and the RFU needs to manage its own particular complexities. Our business model is similar to most rugby clubs - we earn revenue from events on and off the field and we invest that back into the game. We benefit from strong Twickenham Stadium revenues but we are also exposed if there is widespread cancellation of games and events.

In this extraordinary situation we are working through a range of potential financial scenarios dependent mainly on the length of this crisis. This was already budgeted to be a loss making year within a 4 year cycle due to the costs of the 2019 RWC campaign and only hosting two home Six Nations games. The loss will now be considerably more as we face challenges similar to businesses across the entire country. There may well also be much longer term financial implications which we are assessing now. It is therefore taking us some time to develop a considered position on how we can support clubs and the rugby community, which we will do.

We have already undertaken financial measures to safeguard the business enabling us to review all options and programmes to provide support for clubs in these difficult times.

We welcome the measures announced by Government which could provide crucial support to professional and community clubs and the RFU. We are in regular contact with Sport England and The Sport and Recreation Alliance to understand how business rate relief and hardship funds can be accessed by clubs and will be providing assistance to make sure every club who is eligible will be supported.

My thoughts and those of all of us at the RFU are with everyone impacted by COVID-19 as well as recent flooding events, both across the country at large but also within our own rugby union community.

In order to provide clarity and to assist with immediate and longer term planning, the RFU is today announcing the end of the 2019/20 rugby season for all league, cup and county rugby in England. The only exception to this is the Gallagher Premiership, who we are in active discussions with to review possible best next steps.

When current government advice on social distancing measures changes, we will naturally encourage rugby training and friendlies to recommence.

I would like to personally thank everyone for their swift actions in suspending rugby activity, this is not an easy time and I know many of you will have concerns that go beyond the game.

We are working through the implications of ending the season early and have instigated a thorough process to ensure fair and balanced outcomes for the game. We will communicate these outcomes by the middle of April. While we would like to provide all the answers now, we need some time to get it right for the best interests of the game. Rest assured we are working on this as a priority and we will continue to send weekly updates to clubs.

The three areas of focus for the RFU right now are Welfare, Implications and Reboot.

Welfare

We are ensuring colleagues and communities are given support to follow government advice and are providing recommendations on how to stay fit and healthy using individual training programmes. We are also talking to government about how we can deploy and mobilise our own resources across England to support the vulnerable.

Implications

Every union is different, with unique structures and challenges and the RFU needs to manage its own particular complexities. Our business model is similar to most rugby clubs - we earn revenue from events on and off the field and we invest that back into the game. We benefit from strong Twickenham Stadium revenues but we are also exposed if there is widespread cancellation of games and events.

In this extraordinary situation we are working through a range of potential financial scenarios dependent mainly on the length of this crisis. This was already budgeted to be a loss making year within a 4 year cycle due to the costs of the 2019 RWC campaign and only hosting two home Six Nations games. The loss will now be considerably more as we face challenges similar to businesses across the entire country. There may well also be much longer term financial implications which we are assessing now. It is therefore taking us some time to develop a considered position on how we can support clubs and the rugby community, which we will do.

We have already undertaken financial measures to safeguard the business enabling us to review all options and programmes to provide support for clubs in these difficult times.

We welcome the measures announced by Government which could provide crucial support to professional and community clubs and the RFU. We are in regular contact with Sport England and The Sport and Recreation Alliance to understand how business rate relief and hardship funds can be accessed by clubs and will be providing assistance to make sure every club who is eligible will be supported.

The implications for all areas of rugby will be thoroughly worked through and solutions discussed and developed with the clubs.

Reboot

Our welfare advice before the start of next season will switch to offering guidance on how players at all levels can reboot and get match ready.

We will work closely with constituent bodies to support clubs, competition organisers and the wider rugby community in preparing to re-start rugby in what is likely to be a challenging environment.

In recent days we have all been inspired by the many stories across the rugby family working together to support those who are the most vulnerable in their community – this encapsulates the unique spirit of rugby. I am confident that this spirit and resilience during these tough times will ensure we will come through this together and emerge stronger.

Take care and stay safe,

Bill Sweeney

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Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« Reply #61 on: March 30, 2020, 03:15:07 PM »
if this decision was down to me and me alone and dont forget my club is Selby and we are going nowhere in Y1 so i feel its a neutral view, i would do the following:
* 80-85% of the season already gone so unfair to Null and Void
* Start the end of the 2019/20 season in September 20
* first 4 matches to conclude the season 2029/20
* Allow promotion and relegation to happen
* Commence the new 2020/21 season in mid to late October 20
* Run the season until 2nd week in May 21
* Cancel all National and domestic cup competitions

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Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« Reply #62 on: March 30, 2020, 03:39:07 PM »
Not sure fixtures secretaries will thank you for points 2-4 !
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Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« Reply #63 on: March 30, 2020, 10:45:47 PM »
Not sure fixtures secretaries will thank you for points 2-4 !
Nothing is beyond our capabilities when we decide to make it happen!
Small potatoes at the moment, but given the immense efforts being made on the behalf of us all. A few phone calls and emails as and when we can move forward, will be easy peasy!!!
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Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« Reply #64 on: March 31, 2020, 07:10:41 PM »
With the Sru now joining the welsh, Irish and Italians in declaring the current season null and void, with no promotion or relegation will this put pressure on the RFU to follow suit?

Probably not many will be too interested in Scottish leagues on here but the SRU are saying that any teams who wish to drop down a league should apply for this to happen. The same could apply here, any thoughts?

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Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« Reply #65 on: April 01, 2020, 11:55:38 AM »
Certainly YMCA will benefit from a league lower and as I've said in another post, W Hartlepool were only a couple of players off being very

competitive. There is certainly 1 club in the league above that would benefit from a lesser standard next season. Whether York would be

able to compete at the higher level remains to be seen. Morpeth were clearly the best side the year before and they have struggled.

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Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« Reply #66 on: April 01, 2020, 03:50:35 PM »
Yes I'm pretty sure we will start the season from scratch again next season...so probably the same fixture list!

There may be the odd promotion and relegation but even that adds a layer of complexity.
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Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« Reply #67 on: April 01, 2020, 07:23:09 PM »
Yes I'm pretty sure we will start the season from scratch again next season...so probably the same fixture list!

There may be the odd promotion and relegation but even that adds a layer of complexity.
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Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« Reply #68 on: April 01, 2020, 08:01:29 PM »
And Pundits League will be null and void too 😂
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Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« Reply #69 on: April 02, 2020, 07:05:13 AM »
Start from scratch looks the most likely but is it do able to start again in September?

For a September start players have to be able to get together for pre season by July, not sure that will be allowed. Hope I’m wrong but think the RFU need a plan particularly in Yorkshire where we have 14 team leagues. Yesterday spoke on the phone to family member based in Surrey where they have 10 team leagues they are expecting to delay next season’s start till October or November not sure we could do that in Yorkshire.

Sorry if I’m being doom and gloom but think whatever the RFU propose has to be doable.

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Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« Reply #70 on: April 02, 2020, 09:03:07 AM »
Email from rfu, promotion and relegation to continue and they are using formulas to calculate results to end of season.

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Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« Reply #71 on: April 02, 2020, 09:20:15 AM »
community game for 2019/20 season confirmed



Following the early end of the rugby season in England as a result of COVID-19, we're announcing the final league positions for the Greene King IPA Championship, Tyrrells Premier 15s and men’s and women’s community game.

Proposals from the RFU governance committee to conclude the season for those leagues at both professional and community level were yesterday ratified by the RFU Council.

It was agreed that final standings for the Greene King IPA Championship and men’s and women’s community game would be calculated on a best playing record formula maintaining promotion and relegation for those leagues. The Tyrrells Premier 15s season has been declared null and void as there is no promotion or relegation in this league.

RFU President, Peter Wheeler, said: “We believe that the decisions made provide fair and balanced outcomes for the game and maintain the integrity of the competitions. We have listened to recommendations from the heart of the game and the approach has been ratified by the RFU Council.

“This has been a difficult decision to make in the most unprecedented of circumstances. There is no single solution that will suit every club, but the approach taken is one that we believe best reflects the nature of league rugby in England.

“With 80% of the season complete for the community game, we believe our approach is fair and the right one for our leagues. We have clubs that are clear league leaders and worthy of promotion, but also other clubs who have said they would benefit from relegation, to play more meaningful rugby.”

Final league tables will be available on the England Rugby website by 6pm, Friday 3 April.
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Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« Reply #72 on: April 02, 2020, 09:23:15 AM »
Congratulations to York on their promotion !!!
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Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« Reply #73 on: April 02, 2020, 09:39:59 AM »
I presume play offs will be scrapped?

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Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« Reply #74 on: April 02, 2020, 10:44:29 AM »
Best Playing Record
 
as between the Clubs at Level 4 and below:
 
• which of the two Clubs had the better percentage record taking the number of league points (including bonus points) gained (or awarded by the appropriate Organising Committee taking into account any appeals and the result thereof) during the current Season programme of league matches (as reflected in the final league table) as a percentage of the maximum number of league points (including bonus points) it was possible to gain had the Club won every one of its matches against the other Clubs shown in the final league table;
 
• in the event of the percentages being identical which of the two Clubs had the better percentage record taking the number of wins (as reflected in the league table) as a percentage of the maximum number of matches played during the current Season programme; 
 
• in the event of the percentages being identical which of the two Clubs had the better percentage record taking the number of draws (as reflected in the league table) as a percentage of the maximum number of matches played during the current season programme;
 
• in the event of the percentages being identical which of the two Clubs had the higher average winning margin in its said programme of league matches to be calculated by deducting from the points scored by the Club the points scored against the Club and dividing the difference by the number of matches played by the Club (or deemed by that Club’s Organising Committee to have been played by the Club in that Competition points were awarded to the Club) in the Club’s said league programme. When determining Best Playing Record as between two different leagues (Play-off venue), a match awarded in favour of a Club as a 0-0 Walkover shall not be counted when calculating that Club’s average winning margin;
 
• if this still does not establish the Best Playing Record then the Clubs involved shall be ranked according to the percentage number of matches won, excluding the first League match of the season.  If necessary this process shall be extended to exclude the second match, third match and so on until a Best Playing Record is established.
Best Runner Up
 
the County not winning its pool and
 
(i) having the next best total of competition points for  matches won and drawn or failing that
 
(ii) having the greater or greatest positive points difference by subtracting the match points conceded from the match points scored or failing that
 (iii)  having scored the most match points “for” or failing that
 
(iv) having scored the most number of tries or failing   that
 
(v)  having scored the most number of goals from tries   or failing that
 
(vi) having the greater or greatest positive aggregate   points difference by subtracting the match points   conceded from the match points scored in Away   matches played or failing that
 
(vii)having scored the greater or greatest aggregate match points “for” in Away matches played or failing that
 
(viii)having scored the greater or greatest aggregate  number of tries in Away matches played or failing  that
 
(ix) having scored the greater or greatest aggregate   number of goals from tries in Away matches played  or failing that
 
(x) by the toss of a coin by the Committee or its  nominee, in the presence of two independent  witnesses.

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