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No rugby till 2021?
« on: April 29, 2020, 08:24:04 PM »
Who actually thinks that rugby will start in September?

I've become more pessimistic about the possibility of that.. obviously none of us know but it would be good to debate the variables...

There is even a possibility of a whole season off...
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Re: No rugby till 2021?
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2020, 08:53:53 PM »
I am of the opinion the season won’t get completed.... however and this is my view not the view of my club....that it wouldn’t do us any harm if it didn’t. There will be games played at some point next season (I hope) from the start maybe... but at some point it will get curtailed. Let’s says we play the first 3/4/5 games then on the Tuesday following your last game you get a phone call from your last weeks opposition, and are told one or several of their players have come down with corona virus....all your players and all there’s have to go into quarantine. This means your game and your oppositions game from last week cant go ahead the following week or the following week.
So how can this help York. At some point if many games get postponed in such a manner the RFU may decide to make the season null and void regarding promotion and relegation whilst at the same maybe allowing fixtures to continue on a friendly basis if situation allows. This would allow us the opportunity of a season or at least some games to appreciate the physicality and speed of this higher level. Just a thought.
In the meantime planning is well underway I understand for next season should it start on time

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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2020, 09:13:01 PM »
Seeing some of the return to work protocols for our clients we deal with I cant see why they cant replicate these in amateur sport,consistent temperature monitoring on a daily basis and people be checked game day?

I appreciate its a minefield of unchartered territory but to potentially write off a season of sport to me is unfathomable.

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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2020, 11:13:55 PM »
Seeing some of the return to work protocols for our clients we deal with I cant see why they cant replicate these in amateur sport,consistent temperature monitoring on a daily basis and people be checked game day?

I appreciate its a minefield of unchartered territory but to potentially write off a season of sport to me is unfathomable.
There are an awful lot of asymptomatic cases though.
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Re: No rugby till 2021?
« Reply #4 on: April 30, 2020, 11:21:00 AM »
I did say in previous post that I was fearful that we might not play again this side of Christmas, I hope I am wrong, we should get some idea in next couple of weeks when some of the lock down measures are eased.

One thing is for sure that those who have invested in the Colts and youth sections will see some return for their investments.

The Globe trotters from the Southern Hemisphere who are shipped in by some clubs to top and tail turnips or hire out deck chairs will be in short supply!
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Re: No rugby till 2021?
« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2020, 01:32:45 PM »
Can't see it happening, certainly not in team sports, until at least an effective vaccine is developed. And that, at the moment, is a long long way off.
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Re: No rugby till 2021?
« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2020, 06:41:12 PM »
It's pretty evident that contact sport will be the very last restriction lifted. Football Premier League will get away with playing simply by having the massive financial resources to test players and staff every single day. They will be able to guarantee that every single person is negative. No level of community sport in any sport will be able to do that.

Sadly rugby and all its ancillary activities tick the box of the very highest risk category. Contact sport is the pinnacle of risk. Densely populated bars and tightly filled pre-match meals are pretty high up there too. When you add in the age profile of many officials and supporters of rugby i.e. in the danger zone..... Even if a full lifting of lockdown occurred in September I can see there being a high degree of reluctance from older members to become involved in any close contact social gathering.

So if you take the view that the 1st of January is a possibility.... this is also likely to coincide with the peak of the annual flu season, general NHS pressures plus any likely second peak of covid-19. Can you really see at the point of maximum pressure on health care resources there being much desire to release rugby onto the nation.

I'm not saying this is what I think will happen and therefore September is still a possibility.... But January or the whole season off I think is of equal likelihood.



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Re: No rugby till 2021?
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2020, 06:34:20 AM »
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Don’t think when we first come back tightly pack bars and pre match meals will be allowed.

When restrictions are lifted I expect social distancing to remain in place for quite a while afterward.

So local sports clubs including rugby may well be allowed because they mostly attract a modest number of spectators ( I know there are exceptions) and the virus breaks down quickly in fresh air. Local sports yes, but full social contact before and after games no.

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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2020, 06:54:25 AM »
I agree with your underlying arguement. I just wonder will they really make a distinction between a packed bar and a scrum?

There is a danger that both will be last on the list...
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2020, 01:44:01 PM »
Miserable thought, but I fear you’re right. Hoping for some good news next Thursday, as I’m sure Boris would always want to be the bearer of good tidings.

I’d settle for golf courses to open June 1st and for rugby to start October 1st......

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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2020, 03:07:58 PM »
I agree with your underlying arguement. I just wonder will they really make a distinction between a packed bar and a scrum?

There is a danger that both will be last on the list...

Perhaps I’m clutching at straws but I think small local sporting events outside will be allowed earlier than inside events. Know rugby might be later that netball but we can but hope.

Read yesterday research by UK scientists which found the Covid virus survives much longer inside in rooms with poor airflow. The article specifically mentioned bars and public toilets. So I think bars will be last on the list and will have to continue with social distancing.


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Re: No rugby till 2021?
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2020, 03:27:43 PM »
I see they’re hoping to start rugby in Ireland again on August 10th....

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Re: No rugby till 2021?
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2020, 08:44:18 AM »
I think FA, RFU and ECB meeting HMG this week so we might some indication soon...
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Re: No rugby till 2021?
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2020, 10:50:53 AM »
I think we will only hear about professional sport in the short term. Amateur sport will be way down the list as won't be able to afford the strict testing that the professionals will be undertaking.

Until social distancing is completely removed amateur sport and rugby in particular can't take place. The big thing is going to be time to do some sort of preseason and get bodies used to contact before steaming straight in.

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« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2020, 01:58:03 PM »
I think FA, RFU and ECB meeting HMG this week so we might some indication soon...

Meeting reported in the press this morning. The RFU sole focus was on the financial losses they face they have already lost £15 million they are set up loose another £32 million even if the autumn internationals go ahead behind closed doors. No mention of the rest of the game including the Premiership.

Separately it’s reported the RFU are planned a series of webinar consultations over the next four weeks about changing the league structures for 2021/2 to make it more attractive to players. Including reducing travelling time and the number of games played.