Author Topic: Predictions 24th February (Read 5457 times)

backrowbandit · **Reply #15 on:** February 23, 2024, 09:11:07 PM

Not a lot of sympathy for Brids lost match day and takings....

Benchwarmer · **Reply #16 on:** February 23, 2024, 09:21:42 PM

Bridlington, another club who like to bring in imports. As you’re well aware because I believe some of them have played for both Brid and Scarborough in recent years.

I’m sure they’ll be fine, you’re doing awful lot to cover up your true gripe with the situation.

Yes, I can sympathise with your point of loss of earning, though as a true grassroots rugby fanatic, my sympathies lay more-so with the club that are struggling to field a team. Sorry, not sorry

backrowbandit · **Reply #17 on:** February 23, 2024, 09:43:23 PM

Although if their website and socials are accurate...they are fielding 2nd and 3rd teams this weekend. Still sympathetic?

It makes no odds to me either way, I just think it's a poor state of affairs.

In 98 years we have never given a walkover in a competitive match. And it's been far from easy at times.

Benchwarmer · **Reply #18 on:** February 23, 2024, 10:03:27 PM

There could be number of reasons this is the case..

Here’s an example - it may be that Glossop are lacking in front rows. You may well have somebody filling in roles of the front row in the 2nd/3rd team who have not previously played there, just to get the games to go ahead. That may be manageable at merit league level, however in highly competitive level 6 matches it can soon from manageable to dangerous.

Tell me, would you risk a man’s wellbeing for the sake of one game going ahead?

avinastella · **Reply #19 on:** February 23, 2024, 10:11:37 PM

Quote from: Benchwarmer on February 23, 2024, 10:03:27 PM

There could be number of reasons this is the case..

Here’s an example - it may be that Glossop are lacking in front rows. You may well have somebody filling in roles of the front row in the 2nd/3rd team who have not previously played there, just to get the games to go ahead. That may be manageable at merit league level, however in highly competitive level 6 matches it can soon from manageable to dangerous.

Tell me, would you risk a man’s wellbeing for the sake of one game going ahead?

All covered in the regulations.

Benchwarmer · **Reply #20 on:** February 23, 2024, 10:15:47 PM

Care to elaborate Stella?

All is covered in the regulations that goes without saying. But what exactly are you referring to?

avinastella · **Reply #21 on:** February 23, 2024, 10:19:40 PM

Quote from: Benchwarmer on February 23, 2024, 10:15:47 PM

Care to elaborate Stella?

All is covered in the regulations that goes without saying. But what exactly are you referring to?

The scenario you outlined regarding the Front Row.
We went through the options when Beverley chose not to turn up before Xmas. The 5 point deduction to Glossop as a result of not playing the fixture is academic, they are already down. Would they have made the same decision if the had a chance of staying up?

insider · **Reply #22 on:** February 23, 2024, 10:27:02 PM

Quote from: backrowbandit on February 23, 2024, 09:43:23 PM

Although if their website and socials are accurate...they are fielding 2nd and 3rd teams this weekend. Still sympathetic?

It makes no odds to me either way, I just think it's a poor state of affairs.

In 98 years we have never given a walkover in a competitive match. And it's been far from easy at times.

Not given a walkover in 98 years come on lets be honest up to Christmas wasnt much difference.

Benchwarmer · **Reply #23 on:** February 23, 2024, 10:27:49 PM

I guess time will tell. They’ve still a number of away fixtures to fulfil, including one over to Scarborough. If it becomes a regular occurrence in these closing months then I’d say we can begin to think about it.

At the minute it’s all speculation, innocent until proven guilty springs to mind. So at the minute based on what I can see I must continue to sympathise with the team struggling to field a team… opinion can always change

backrowbandit · **Reply #24 on:** February 23, 2024, 10:33:52 PM

I also sympathise with them.....all this started by me saying it was a bit pathetic. Perhaps I should have chosen my words more carefully. It was more surprise than anything else, this is level 6 after all. I would think the fact it's an away match, they are down anyway and there are lots of nice rugby matches to watch TV may be contributing factors....but who knows.

avinastella · **Reply #25 on:** February 23, 2024, 10:35:07 PM

Quote from: Benchwarmer on February 23, 2024, 10:27:49 PM

I guess time will tell. They’ve still a number of away fixtures to fulfil, including one over to Scarborough. If it becomes a regular occurrence in these closing months then I’d say we can begin to think about it.

At the minute it’s all speculation, innocent until proven guilty springs to mind. So at the minute based on what I can see I must continue to sympathise with the team struggling to field a team… opinion can always change

I'm not taking sides her, simply pointing out the game could have been played safely and without Glossop incurring a sanction but the facts are, they were already down. I'd say that was a factor in their decision.
Will they be making the similar journey on the 16th?

Benchwarmer · **Reply #26 on:** February 23, 2024, 10:38:27 PM

It could well be the case - and I’ll be equally as critical of Glossop is there to be some evidence with substance come to light

Dark Arts Advocate · **Reply #27 on:** February 24, 2024, 08:45:31 PM

In truth I think we are missing the point.
League rugby is the issue.
If clubs just played locally in the old fashioned friendlies, club against club in their entirety.
The travel would not be an issue unless you were seeking a more senior level?
The problem is the leagues have introduced a death knell ultimately for amateur rugby!

backrowbandit · **Reply #28 on:** February 25, 2024, 07:24:08 AM

We certainly need continued localisation of the leagues. The only way to do that is to end promotion and relegation in it's current form.

However even if that were to happen there isn't a perfect solution. Coastal clubs will always need to travel further.

What about local leagues that are set for three years and then reviewed?

Still far from ideal but could offer some stability. Mind you, with no relegation, will clubs near the bottom be motivated to travel to away matches after Christmas?

Dark Arts Advocate · **Reply #29 on:** February 25, 2024, 01:00:30 PM

Quote from: backrowbandit on February 25, 2024, 07:24:08 AM

We certainly need continued localisation of the leagues. The only way to do that is to end promotion and relegation in it's current form.

However even if that were to happen there isn't a perfect solution. Coastal clubs will always need to travel further.

What about local leagues that are set for three years and then reviewed?

Still far from ideal but could offer some stability. Mind you, with no relegation, will clubs near the bottom be motivated to travel to away matches after Christmas?

I am sure they would.
Taking Scarborough as an example.

Scars, Brid, Pock, Driff, Malton, York, Selby, Hullensians, Beverly, Wetherby, Ponte, Ripon plus others who might want to throw their hats in the ring
Home and away 1st through to 3rds or 4ths Vets, Colts, ladies?
No promotion or relegation.
Just amateur rugby. No massive travelling.
Reinstate Yorks Cup, Shield, Trophy maybe Vase ?
It’s got to be better than just watching clubs team numbers melting away.

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