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Reply #75 on: April 28, 2024, 05:32:03 PM
Is the size of Heaths pitch acceptable for a national cup semi final?
In a league fixture I understand that it’s ok, each team in the league has to play on the pitch so it levels its self out over a season.

However for a 1 off cup fixture it’s a massive disadvantage to the away side.

Away from the actual dimensions of the pitch, the parameter (brick wall of the stand) surely can’t be safe given the level and intensity of a game of this level (might be worth requesting the latest risk assessment)
7 subs plus coaches in the narrow space next to the wall can’t be safe.

Have adults county sides played on the pitch for example?
I think you're going to need to try harder pulling that trick.
Perimeter should not be less than 5 metres - where practical. As per world rugby Laws.
Also, only 4 people allowed in the Technical area. All others should be behind the pitch side barriers. As per RFU Reg 6, para 28.
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Reply #76 on: April 28, 2024, 06:34:44 PM
Is the size of Heaths pitch acceptable for a national cup semi final?
In a league fixture I understand that it’s ok, each team in the league has to play on the pitch so it levels its self out over a season.

However for a 1 off cup fixture it’s a massive disadvantage to the away side.

Away from the actual dimensions of the pitch, the parameter (brick wall of the stand) surely can’t be safe given the level and intensity of a game of this level (might be worth requesting the latest risk assessment)
7 subs plus coaches in the narrow space next to the wall can’t be safe.

Have adults county sides played on the pitch for example?
I think you're going to need to try harder pulling that trick.
Perimeter should not be less than 5 metres - where practical. As per world rugby Laws.
Also, only 4 people allowed in the Technical area. All others should be behind the pitch side barriers. As per RFU Reg 6, para 28.

Its less then 5m, so a comprehensive and regular risk assessment must be carried out. The risk assessment should consider the type, level and intensity of rugby activity that will take place.

Has a comprehensive risk assessment taken place for a semi final of a national tournament? That’s a different level and intensity to league rugby.

RFU Reg 6, paragraph 26 makes interesting reading regarding the designated technical area allocated for the 4 members allowed pitch side. 2m from the touchline isn’t achievable. (I’m sure Heath will only be having 4 members throughout the game in the designated space now this has been highlighted)

So if I was York, and wanting a reversed fixture for the purposes of having a home game in the cup, I would be requesting a comprehensive risk assessment, carried out for the up coming cup fixture


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Reply #77 on: April 28, 2024, 06:37:49 PM
This is smart.
That pitch and general area won’t meet requirements I bet.

It’d be a shrewd move to have somebody official check.
Funny that was the topic of conversation at York yesterday!
The regulations say it is supposed to 68 meters wide as a minimum.
Do they have special dispensation from the YRFU to play on a smaller pitch or is its width within the regs?
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Reply #78 on: April 28, 2024, 06:40:48 PM
This is smart.
That pitch and general area won’t meet requirements I bet.

It’d be a shrewd move to have somebody official check.
Funny that was the topic of conversation at York yesterday!
The regulations say it is supposed to 68 meters wide as a minimum.
Do they have special dispensation from the YRFU to play on a smaller pitch or is its width within the regs?

Any YRFU dispensation would only cover league fixtures I’m sure.

Google maps is very good for measuring distances these days.
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Reply #79 on: April 28, 2024, 07:14:14 PM
This is smart.
That pitch and general area won’t meet requirements I bet.

It’d be a shrewd move to have somebody official check.
Funny that was the topic of conversation at York yesterday!
The regulations say it is supposed to 68 meters wide as a minimum.
Do they have special dispensation from the YRFU to play on a smaller pitch or is its width within the regs?

Any YRFU dispensation would only cover league fixtures I’m sure.

Google maps is very good for measuring distances these days.


I am assuming the reason for Yorks lack of home games in the cup was due to other teams dropping out? Heath travelled to Bridge North and played one home game. Although the Bridge North game was a waste of time and money as they pulled out soon after.

Heath travelled to Havant last year for the semi final, did they cry about it and the expense that came with it? No they accepted it like men and unfortunately lost.

Heaths pitch is exactly the right size and like all pitches undergoes regular risk assessments. But you fellas already know this, you are simply trying to find a way to distract everyone from your own insecurities. Which is a different size related matter. I bet you drive a big Land Rover also to compensate.

Heath are looking forward to welcoming York to Heath for the second time this year. We will have 100 people sat down for lunch and about 500 local supporters watching the game. It will be a fantastic atmosphere.

Unlucky Driffield on the loss yesterday, it would have been great to repeat history. Enjoy the summer break!


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Reply #80 on: April 28, 2024, 07:48:37 PM
So it’s already decided?
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Reply #81 on: April 28, 2024, 07:58:04 PM
This is smart.
That pitch and general area won’t meet requirements I bet.

It’d be a shrewd move to have somebody official check.
Funny that was the topic of conversation at York yesterday!
The regulations say it is supposed to 68 meters wide as a minimum.
Do they have special dispensation from the YRFU to play on a smaller pitch or is its width within the regs?

Any YRFU dispensation would only cover league fixtures I’m sure.

Google maps is very good for measuring distances these days.


I am assuming the reason for Yorks lack of home games in the cup was due to other teams dropping out? Heath travelled to Bridge North and played one home game. Although the Bridge North game was a waste of time and money as they pulled out soon after.

Heath travelled to Havant last year for the semi final, did they cry about it and the expense that came with it? No they accepted it like men and unfortunately lost.

Heaths pitch is exactly the right size and like all pitches undergoes regular risk assessments. But you fellas already know this, you are simply trying to find a way to distract everyone from your own insecurities. Which is a different size related matter. I bet you drive a big Land Rover also to compensate.

Heath are looking forward to welcoming York to Heath for the second time this year. We will have 100 people sat down for lunch and about 500 local supporters watching the game. It will be a fantastic atmosphere.

Unlucky Driffield on the loss yesterday, it would have been great to repeat history. Enjoy the summer break!
I am assuming that you got turned over at Havant because it was at a larger pitch?
Twickenham pitch is a big as it gets!
So you might get agoraphobia down there!
If you win on the cabbage patch of course! In front of the 600 plus you are expecting? 
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Reply #82 on: April 28, 2024, 08:11:29 PM
This is smart.
That pitch and general area won’t meet requirements I bet.

It’d be a shrewd move to have somebody official check.
Funny that was the topic of conversation at York yesterday!
The regulations say it is supposed to 68 meters wide as a minimum.
Do they have special dispensation from the YRFU to play on a smaller pitch or is its width within the regs?

Any YRFU dispensation would only cover league fixtures I’m sure.

Google maps is very good for measuring distances these days.


I am assuming the reason for Yorks lack of home games in the cup was due to other teams dropping out? Heath travelled to Bridge North and played one home game. Although the Bridge North game was a waste of time and money as they pulled out soon after.

Heath travelled to Havant last year for the semi final, did they cry about it and the expense that came with it? No they accepted it like men and unfortunately lost.

Heaths pitch is exactly the right size and like all pitches undergoes regular risk assessments. But you fellas already know this, you are simply trying to find a way to distract everyone from your own insecurities. Which is a different size related matter. I bet you drive a big Land Rover also to compensate.

Heath are looking forward to welcoming York to Heath for the second time this year. We will have 100 people sat down for lunch and about 500 local supporters watching the game. It will be a fantastic atmosphere.

Unlucky Driffield on the loss yesterday, it would have been great to repeat history. Enjoy the summer break!

Classy response at the end there. Heaths request for Saturdays game footage might have just gone missing I imagine.
Season not finished for Driffield just yet, so will wait a little longer for the summer break.

If the pitch is as stated “exactly the right size” what would be the need for such a defensive response? Think the size insecurities might be a little closer to home.


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Reply #83 on: April 28, 2024, 08:27:05 PM
Just out of interest, where were the neutral officials from,  that Rossendale allegedly got so exercised about?
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Reply #84 on: April 28, 2024, 08:44:24 PM
The referee has been reffing at this level for years, lives in leeds I believe, and the touch judges were yorkshire.
I take it you’re suggesting bias by that comment


Just out of interest, where were the neutral officials from,  that Rossendale allegedly got so exercised about?


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Reply #85 on: April 28, 2024, 09:17:25 PM
This is smart.
That pitch and general area won’t meet requirements I bet.

It’d be a shrewd move to have somebody official check.
Funny that was the topic of conversation at York yesterday!
The regulations say it is supposed to 68 meters wide as a minimum.
Do they have special dispensation from the YRFU to play on a smaller pitch or is its width within the regs?

Any YRFU dispensation would only cover league fixtures I’m sure.

Google maps is very good for measuring distances these days.


I am assuming the reason for Yorks lack of home games in the cup was due to other teams dropping out? Heath travelled to Bridge North and played one home game. Although the Bridge North game was a waste of time and money as they pulled out soon after.

Heath travelled to Havant last year for the semi final, did they cry about it and the expense that came with it? No they accepted it like men and unfortunately lost.

Heaths pitch is exactly the right size and like all pitches undergoes regular risk assessments. But you fellas already know this, you are simply trying to find a way to distract everyone from your own insecurities. Which is a different size related matter. I bet you drive a big Land Rover also to compensate.

Heath are looking forward to welcoming York to Heath for the second time this year. We will have 100 people sat down for lunch and about 500 local supporters watching the game. It will be a fantastic atmosphere.

Unlucky Driffield on the loss yesterday, it would have been great to repeat history. Enjoy the summer break!

I'd love to have more details of these regular risk assessments??
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Reply #86 on: April 28, 2024, 09:22:55 PM
This is smart.
That pitch and general area won’t meet requirements I bet.

It’d be a shrewd move to have somebody official check.
Funny that was the topic of conversation at York yesterday!
The regulations say it is supposed to 68 meters wide as a minimum.
Do they have special dispensation from the YRFU to play on a smaller pitch or is its width within the regs?

Any YRFU dispensation would only cover league fixtures I’m sure.

Google maps is very good for measuring distances these days.


I am assuming the reason for Yorks lack of home games in the cup was due to other teams dropping out? Heath travelled to Bridge North and played one home game. Although the Bridge North game was a waste of time and money as they pulled out soon after.

Heath travelled to Havant last year for the semi final, did they cry about it and the expense that came with it? No they accepted it like men and unfortunately lost.

Heaths pitch is exactly the right size and like all pitches undergoes regular risk assessments. But you fellas already know this, you are simply trying to find a way to distract everyone from your own insecurities. Which is a different size related matter. I bet you drive a big Land Rover also to compensate.

Heath are looking forward to welcoming York to Heath for the second time this year. We will have 100 people sat down for lunch and about 500 local supporters watching the game. It will be a fantastic atmosphere.

Unlucky Driffield on the loss yesterday, it would have been great to repeat history. Enjoy the summer break!
I am assuming that you got turned over at Havant because it was at a larger pitch?
Twickenham pitch is a big as it gets!
So you might get agoraphobia down there!
If you win on the cabbage patch of course! In front of the 600 plus you are expecting?

Havant was a fantastic pitch to play on and the club was extremely welcoming. We absolutely loved the experience and understand what a strong home atmosphere can do to rally the troops. The noise they made was unreal. Unlike the empty seats of York.

I’d rather have a cabbage patch than a daisy field

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Reply #87 on: April 28, 2024, 09:29:48 PM
This is smart.
That pitch and general area won’t meet requirements I bet.

It’d be a shrewd move to have somebody official check.
Funny that was the topic of conversation at York yesterday!
The regulations say it is supposed to 68 meters wide as a minimum.
Do they have special dispensation from the YRFU to play on a smaller pitch or is its width within the regs?

Any YRFU dispensation would only cover league fixtures I’m sure.

Google maps is very good for measuring distances these days.


I am assuming the reason for Yorks lack of home games in the cup was due to other teams dropping out? Heath travelled to Bridge North and played one home game. Although the Bridge North game was a waste of time and money as they pulled out soon after.

Heath travelled to Havant last year for the semi final, did they cry about it and the expense that came with it? No they accepted it like men and unfortunately lost.

Heaths pitch is exactly the right size and like all pitches undergoes regular risk assessments. But you fellas already know this, you are simply trying to find a way to distract everyone from your own insecurities. Which is a different size related matter. I bet you drive a big Land Rover also to compensate.

Heath are looking forward to welcoming York to Heath for the second time this year. We will have 100 people sat down for lunch and about 500 local supporters watching the game. It will be a fantastic atmosphere.

Unlucky Driffield on the loss yesterday, it would have been great to repeat history. Enjoy the summer break!

Classy response at the end there. Heaths request for Saturdays game footage might have just gone missing I imagine.
Season not finished for Driffield just yet, so will wait a little longer for the summer break.

If the pitch is as stated “exactly the right size” what would be the need for such a defensive response? Think the size insecurities might be a little closer to home.

Classy response? It was a genuine gesture of compassion towards a losing team. But I guess you are probably really upset and I will give you some time to calm down. Good lad.

Come on surely you can think of your own jokes, the size insecurities took me ages to come up with. Lazy lazy lazy


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Reply #88 on: April 28, 2024, 09:33:03 PM
This is smart.
That pitch and general area won’t meet requirements I bet.

It’d be a shrewd move to have somebody official check.
Funny that was the topic of conversation at York yesterday!
The regulations say it is supposed to 68 meters wide as a minimum.
Do they have special dispensation from the YRFU to play on a smaller pitch or is its width within the regs?

Any YRFU dispensation would only cover league fixtures I’m sure.

Google maps is very good for measuring distances these days.


I am assuming the reason for Yorks lack of home games in the cup was due to other teams dropping out? Heath travelled to Bridge North and played one home game. Although the Bridge North game was a waste of time and money as they pulled out soon after.

Heath travelled to Havant last year for the semi final, did they cry about it and the expense that came with it? No they accepted it like men and unfortunately lost.

Heaths pitch is exactly the right size and like all pitches undergoes regular risk assessments. But you fellas already know this, you are simply trying to find a way to distract everyone from your own insecurities. Which is a different size related matter. I bet you drive a big Land Rover also to compensate.

Heath are looking forward to welcoming York to Heath for the second time this year. We will have 100 people sat down for lunch and about 500 local supporters watching the game. It will be a fantastic atmosphere.

Unlucky Driffield on the loss yesterday, it would have been great to repeat history. Enjoy the summer break!

I'd love to have more details of these regular risk assessments??

Why would you love this? I mean I’m sure they can be sourced, but why the word love? Is this a passion of yours, a fetish perhaps? Scarborough do produce some strange people. All that mercury in the fish perhaps?


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Reply #89 on: April 28, 2024, 10:06:05 PM
And that’s a hatrick! 3 nibbles from Woody. Someone get a keep net.

Clearly touched a nerve tonight.