Veteran I think you're confusing "not talking too much" with "not talking at all". Refs at this level and above are not going to talk constantly and tell you what they want at every ruck and what's expected of you at every breakdown. They're not coaches - you need to iron out what you can and can't do and how far you're going to push referees at training. If you do it on a Saturday at Y1, N1, etc, you'll just get penalised. They aren't here to coach you through every breakdown, negative play will get penalised and negative players will eventually get binned. That way positive players will get the rewards they deserve.
