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Other Senior Rugby / Re: Update on Future League Structure
« on: April 11, 2021, 03:33:06 PM »
Same at York 45 for performance training with another 35 at touch, plus 40 at Senior and Junior Colts, healthy state so far.

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Other Senior Rugby / Re: Update on Future League Structure
« on: April 10, 2021, 10:36:02 PM »
Just wondering how many clubs will be entering their lower XVs into the leagues for the www/23 season

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Other Senior Rugby / RIP
« on: February 04, 2021, 08:10:47 PM »
Along with many clubs I dare say, York lost one of the true gentleman of Yorkshire rugby when Don Butler sadly died having contracted COVID aged 87. Don was a well known and loved rugby character who perhaps best known as the driving force behind York Unicorns, the midweek invitational side that was a friendly collection of players from all over the region. Lifetime York RUFC member and York RI member a proper old school, Bon viveur and one of the best known personalities of the rugby and sporting population of the area.

Struck us as at York whether it was a bit insensitive to post this as all clubs have suffered losses - but the Unicorns was not York it was all the regional clubs - and their opposition.  And if other clubs share their losses so we can celebrate anyone else we've lost then that's a good thing.

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Other Senior Rugby / Re: Rugby Start up
« on: September 16, 2020, 12:45:04 PM »
Uni rugby starts earliest 3rd week Jan, no sport pre xmas. We wont play pre xmas and thereafter maybe local friendlies. I dont think the 2020/21 season will happen in anyway. Big issues will be loads of older guys will retire early as life on Saturdays will take over and young lads will quit sport or go to football. Player numbers will dramatically fall.

Restricted training times at UoY but starting first week in October, so just have to make the most of what we can at the moment.

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North One / Re: N1E, NE1, NE2, NE3 Honours Updated
« on: April 10, 2020, 09:28:14 PM »
I would hope everyone at York wants the club to be successful DAA, I’m sure they do. Success next year as I have already written on depends on striking the right balance between, keeping existing players ( which hopefully will happen), bringing new players in of the right quality, (hopefully they will be walk ins) and getting the existing players  to buy into what the club is doing. If we don’t get any new players and we have a lot of injuries we will get relegated, if we bring in players and get injuries we may have a chance of staying up. It’s not rocket science.
Regrettably our AGM has been postponed however when we eventually have it we will have chance to ask questions and air our views, whilst at the same time accepting they are the elected individuals we have put in the position to make the decisions they have/will take. We must trust in what the club is/will be doing which includes developing the squad around last years players.
All of which I agree with!

But developing the squad at this level will cost money!!

We have a number of players who are capable of playing at least in the Nat 2 league and even Nat 1, who have been playing for the club that they grew up in.

You import mercenaries, without regard to the loyalty of your present players, you may risk splitting the club in half!!

We will have to wait and see!

Remember we are an amateur club!!

Ha ha haha ha ha ha amateur club?? Was £400 a match to Jonno amateur?

Never reported a post but this is untrue and therefore potentially libellous, care to retract

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North One / Re: N1E, NE1, NE2, NE3 Honours Updated
« on: April 07, 2020, 08:25:59 PM »
I'm afraid York will always be known as "Promoted" not Champions. I know it's a shame for the players but it's just the way it is. If the league had continued they may not have been promoted at all......basic maths.

Thankfully only in your mind. We regard ourselves as Champions of North 1 East and promoted into North Premier on merit no matter what you say, think or use your Forum to spread rumour and untruth. Reality you got what you professed to want, no promotion or relegation and we got what we wanted through hard work, great coaching and a player roster that showed a willingness to learn, develop and try new things and got their just reward at the end of the season.

Anyone got the link to the Rolling Mail forum?

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North Premier / Re: congratulations to york
« on: April 04, 2020, 04:14:40 PM »
Thanks for the advice, but we have got this.

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North Premier / Re: congratulations to york
« on: April 04, 2020, 11:35:53 AM »
Thanks very much BRB for your congratulations, we will certainly take them.

However, as with some of your other comments about York, the paragraph on one of our player's visa is misinformed. 

Can I just take this opportunity, on behalf of all at York RUFC, to wish everyone a peaceful and healthy close season and that when this is all over (which it will be) we can get back to playing, watching and supporting our clubs in the same passionate way we have before.

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North One / Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« on: April 02, 2020, 09:22:44 PM »
Ok might be wrong but it looks like percentage of maximum points for the league which is 130 is the 100% Mark not remaining matches. We will find out 6pm tomorrow

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Yorkshire 2 / Re: Final league standings
« on: April 02, 2020, 05:35:20 PM »
I understand games played is irrelevant, so B&B, West Hartlepool and YMCA come down from N1E, Hullensians and Keighley down from Y1

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North One / Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« on: April 02, 2020, 03:34:06 PM »
As I read this it is simply total points when the league ended that is divided by maximum points available and x 100 to get a final figure. So York was 90/130 x 100 = 69%, Cleckheaton 74/130 x 100 = 57%

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North One / Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« on: April 02, 2020, 02:22:42 PM »
Best Playing Record
 
as between the Clubs at Level 4 and below:
 
• which of the two Clubs had the better percentage record taking the number of league points (including bonus points) gained (or awarded by the appropriate Organising Committee taking into account any appeals and the result thereof) during the current Season programme of league matches (as reflected in the final league table) as a percentage of the maximum number of league points (including bonus points) it was possible to gain had the Club won every one of its matches against the other Clubs shown in the final league table;
 
• in the event of the percentages being identical which of the two Clubs had the better percentage record taking the number of wins (as reflected in the league table) as a percentage of the maximum number of matches played during the current Season programme; 
 
• in the event of the percentages being identical which of the two Clubs had the better percentage record taking the number of draws (as reflected in the league table) as a percentage of the maximum number of matches played during the current season programme;
 
• in the event of the percentages being identical which of the two Clubs had the higher average winning margin in its said programme of league matches to be calculated by deducting from the points scored by the Club the points scored against the Club and dividing the difference by the number of matches played by the Club (or deemed by that Club’s Organising Committee to have been played by the Club in that Competition points were awarded to the Club) in the Club’s said league programme. When determining Best Playing Record as between two different leagues (Play-off venue), a match awarded in favour of a Club as a 0-0 Walkover shall not be counted when calculating that Club’s average winning margin;
 
• if this still does not establish the Best Playing Record then the Clubs involved shall be ranked according to the percentage number of matches won, excluding the first League match of the season.  If necessary this process shall be extended to exclude the second match, third match and so on until a Best Playing Record is established.
Best Runner Up
 
the County not winning its pool and
 
(i) having the next best total of competition points for  matches won and drawn or failing that
 
(ii) having the greater or greatest positive points difference by subtracting the match points conceded from the match points scored or failing that
 (iii)  having scored the most match points “for” or failing that
 
(iv) having scored the most number of tries or failing   that
 
(v)  having scored the most number of goals from tries   or failing that
 
(vi) having the greater or greatest positive aggregate   points difference by subtracting the match points   conceded from the match points scored in Away   matches played or failing that
 
(vii)having scored the greater or greatest aggregate match points “for” in Away matches played or failing that
 
(viii)having scored the greater or greatest aggregate  number of tries in Away matches played or failing  that
 
(ix) having scored the greater or greatest aggregate   number of goals from tries in Away matches played  or failing that
 
(x) by the toss of a coin by the Committee or its  nominee, in the presence of two independent  witnesses.

Understanding that will give you something to do today.


Based on this it would be York promoted, Cleckheaton into playoff (?) and West Hartlepool, Hudds YMCA and Bradford & Bingley go down. Caveat no mention of whether number of games is taken into account (home win for B&B with a losing bonus point for M&N then Percy Park go down, away win with losing bonus point same result. Either win with no losing bonus point then loser goes down, assuming playoff in York’s 1 & D&N 1.

I think!

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North One / Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« on: March 16, 2020, 08:21:48 PM »
Breakaway NW Leagues have cancelled all games and league tables as they are now will be seen as final positions. Interesting.

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North One / Re: Season over.
« on: March 16, 2020, 08:20:19 PM »
I understand that response of breakaway leagues in the North West is to cancel all league and cup games with immediate effect and that the league tables as they are now will be seen as the final positions.

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North One / Re: What happens if the Season finishes early?
« on: March 14, 2020, 12:17:29 PM »
Note that Bishop Auckland have just cancelled all rugby activities until the 3rd April at least. Is this likely to be the case for all clubs after this weekend?

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