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Registration/Contact Information AND Miscellaneous Chat / Re: Age test
« on: December 24, 2015, 11:11:09 PM »
Tin of corned beef

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: MERRY CHRISTMAS AND A GREAT NEW YEAR
« on: December 24, 2015, 06:14:21 PM »
Not posted for a long time, but thought I would wish all my friends throughout Y1 a great Christmas and a wonderful New Year.

I have thoroughly enjoyed all the clubs I have visited this season, and look forward to the 2nd half of the season, renewing friendships both home and away.

Thanks finally to the great hospitality for our last game of 2015 at Old Brods on Saturday. ( although somewhat soured by Olie Stephenson getting a broken leg---although really impressed with the speed of service at Calderdale hospital )

See you boxing day

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Other Senior Rugby / Re: Sheffield RUFC v Sheffield a Tigers 19/12/15
« on: December 20, 2015, 12:51:19 AM »
I think it will be a Sheffield 1 and 2. I reffed the draw at Waterloo.  Your number 8 good player. May want to retire your 10 though. Is he 50

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Other Senior Rugby / Re: Sheffield RUFC v Sheffield a Tigers 19/12/15
« on: December 15, 2015, 05:56:24 PM »
Well its not me reffing as I did Sheffield last week.

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: Yorkshire Shield
« on: November 30, 2015, 04:26:33 PM »

there should be no difference in reffing the breakdown. The difference would be on interpretation or experience.

What players want from refs is allowing competition with safety and fairness
We took another Y1 scalp that we are chuffed with. Our record against Y1 teams has been brilliant for last couple of years.
Sets us up with a chance to play Salem after the disappointment of doing so well in the National cup and not been able to fulfill the fixture in time. Sure Stella will know better than me when this game is taking place but we are both Nat cup tied for when next rounds due to be played.


As Reffing has been brought up ::)
I had a very long chat with Mink on Saturday about disparity between how the game is reffed differently between lvl7 and lvl8 (our ref Saturday was good once we adapted to his way of thinking that I'm led to believe is consistent at lvl 7)

Eg
Lvl 8 are very keen on rolling away
Lvl 7 more interested in positive entry

Lvl 8 refs are warning us weekly in brief about not supporting own weight and been then dragging hands back onto ball as the clear out comes.
Lvl 7 more fussed about showing a clearer release.

Let's not be silly I'm not saying you can do one in one league and not in other. The interesting point for us was that it appears the message the refs are sending to clubs are different from level 7 to 8.
Any refs know if this is accurate (feel free to say I'm talked rubbish)
I can't decide whether I think it's highly astute reacting to the needs of that league or if I think it should be same from top to bottom.
I'm more leaning towards astute to be fair

This is how I look at each breakdown:

A - Tackler, clear and obvious release of the ball carrier. This has to be clear and obvious to the referee. Roll away sideways and not into the 9. Expect to be penalised early in the game to allow a clean breakdown for the rest of the game. Players that are touching the ball carrier when he goes to ground are tackler assists and also must release.

B - Tackled Player. Release the ball immediately after the tackler has rolled away. Pretty standard.

C - Arriving players must be legal. Arriving on feet, being positive and listen to the referees and what they say. I think at L7 and L8, the referee will call something if they do not want you to be touching the ball, although everyone should know what a ruck is and therefore when to leave it alone.

It should be in that order and penalised in that order. ABC. Once A is fulfilled, move to B and so on...

I would concur with WPLREF and his "how to referee the tackle/post tackle".

I don't referee at L7 however I would refute the suggestion that all L8s do it one way and L7 do it another. WL XIII's theory pre-supposes that all the L8s from all 5 Societies (making up the YRS Federation) meet up and are coached to referee the breakdown in a certain way. A way that is different to L7s. That is not the case. At our Society meetings aspects of the game are looked at and in South this month we discussed/analysed breakdown scenarios and mapped out what we expected to see during tackle/post tackle - it was very much like WPLREF explained above.

The young stars in the Development Squad do meet up together and there may be some commonality in the way they are advised to referee certain aspects of the game but generally there should be no difference as to how aspects of the game are refereed between grades 7 and 8.

If you make it to L7 Sam you'll be in a better position to see if I'm right or not. ;).

See you Saturday - don't worry I'm not refereeing you.

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: Yorkshire Shield
« on: November 29, 2015, 01:18:35 AM »
Brb quite agree with you on this. Cannot believe he's aloud it to happen. Not really posted in recent times.

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: Yorkshire Shield
« on: November 28, 2015, 07:27:33 PM »
Well played pontefract 43 3 win in horrendous conditions

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Seeking Fixtures / seaside runabout
« on: October 02, 2015, 07:59:10 PM »
Our opposition just cried off.

Anyone willing to travel to whitby tomorrow 3pm

Pete 07833431982

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Other Senior Rugby / Re: Disciplinary Panel
« on: September 25, 2015, 12:32:28 AM »
New directive out - don't get yellow carded twice  ;)

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Other Senior Rugby / Re: What a drag!
« on: September 25, 2015, 12:31:04 AM »
Feel sorry for you. I thought players wanted to play

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Other Senior Rugby / TMO
« on: September 20, 2015, 11:20:00 PM »
Had to do it.

What's everyone's verdict on the TMOs being used in the world cup.

2 tries been awarded and as conversion being placed. Tries have been cancelled.

At our level we as refs have one pair of eyes. 50 percent of every decision has 1 team happy and the other not. Is it being over used?

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North One / Re: scores today
« on: September 05, 2015, 05:14:53 PM »
Bev 6 West 34

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: Yorkshire Shield 2015-16
« on: August 29, 2015, 08:53:09 PM »
Good result BRB and you get a home tie againts B&B in the next round.

Also well done West Leeds.

I'm looking forward the the next round on the 28 November as I have never visited Whitby RUFC.
More than  welcome. Bring a bus!

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: Yorkshire Shield 2015-16
« on: August 28, 2015, 12:42:41 PM »
Starting to look like  a Whitby v Salem final.

I very much doubt it. I saw our team for Saturday dreadful but we will always fulfill fixtures

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Yorkshire 1 / Re: Yorkshire Shield 2015-16
« on: August 27, 2015, 10:27:21 PM »
Whitby through to next round after roundhegians failed to raise a side at home

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