It may be early days to welcome newcomers to the Y2 and I do hope that our additional clubs will all be represented on here, as well as our regulars return in the fulness of time.
Heads up that I am happy to maintain Moderator status and hope Gate Prop can spare the time too. As I am retiring from work, I will have plenty of time on my hands to run a "bipolar" predictions league for A and B once the season gets underway. I am told that fixtures for this level and below, will be issued on 22nd June. After which, let the banter begin!
That's great we can do season predictions 😉 and 3 years predictions of who will end up in Yorks 1.
Note to self stop been cynical!
Spot on Vannie! ;D
Fixtures out know
Yorkshire 2A
Beverley
Driffield II
Harrogate II
Hull Ionians II
Ilkley II
Leeds Corinthians
Leodiensian
Malton and Norton II
Northallerton
Ripon
Wharfedale II
Yorkshire 2B
Baildon
Bradford & Bingley
Bramley Phoenix
Halifax Vandals
Heath II
Huddersfield Laund Hill
Roundhegians
Sandal II
Sheffield II
Sheffield Tigers II
Wath Upon Dearne II
Wheatley Hills
How come Yorkshire 2 A only has 11 teams??
I think it's because a 2nd XV dropped out somewhere and there was no other way of evening up the leagues. Not ideal that we all now have one less game and another gap to fill with a friendly, or shopping!
A good way of moving back towards 14 team leagues - not...
The whole idea of letting the 2nd XVs into the league system was to appease what the vast majority of clubs had asked for, namely, 14 team leagues. Seems we have been lied to and gazumped yet again by the people who hold power. Not on in my opinion.
Pocklington 2nds withdrew from Yorkshire 2A.
Seems like a proper cluster fcuk to me - again!
Quote from: I'd rather be in t'sunshine! on Jul 14, 2026, 08:44 PMPocklington 2nds withdrew from Yorkshire 2A.
Seems like a proper cluster fcuk to me - again!
Selby moved down
Quote from: Rob on Jul 14, 2026, 08:50 PMQuote from: I'd rather be in t'sunshine! on Jul 14, 2026, 08:44 PMPocklington 2nds withdrew from Yorkshire 2A.
Seems like a proper cluster fcuk to me - again!
Selby moved down
From the original 12 teams that were published to be in Yorkshire 2A in the beginning of June, it looks like Selby + Pock 2's have left the league with 1 replaced by Harrogate 2's?
Sunshine I presume you meant Yorkshire 3A as that is the league they are in on the county website along with Selby. Harrogate 2s in Yorkshire 2A so your comments are a little confusing. Please advise if I am wrong.
Quote from: Ribbflagman on Jul 16, 2026, 09:37 AMSunshine I presume you meant Yorkshire 3A as that is the league they are in on the county website along with Selby. Harrogate 2s in Yorkshire 2A so your comments are a little confusing. Please advise if I am wrong.
Hi Flaggy, according to our social media guru, we were told on June 2nd, the 12 teams in Yorkshire 2A were -
North,
Beverley,
Driffield 2s,
Hull 2s,
Ilkley 2s,
Leos,
Leeds Corin,
Ripon,
Wharfe 2s,
Malton+Norton 2s,
Selby 2s and
Pock 2s.
But I believe Pock + Selby now somewhere else + Harrogate 2s in with us?
Our social media guru could have been misinformed maybe???
Mr Shiners is correct as is his media guru, though I can't corroborate where Selby and Pock twos disappeared to or why, or how Harrogate got in. The starting line up for Y2A however, as on GMS and confirmed with Ripon fixture sec is:
Beverley
Driffield 2
Harrogate 2
Hull Ionians 2
Ilkley 2
Leeds Corinthians
Leodiensian
Malton & Norton 2
Northallerton
Ripon
Wharefedale 2
Having played most of these clubs at some point in the past, it's hardly charting new territory, but with Northallerton and Ripon the sole survivors of last season's Y2, it's going to be quite a different and potentially difficult competition coming up.
Looking forward to making new acquaintances, in person or virtual and keeping up the predictions and banter.
Come on Locky,
with the greatest respect to Northallerton 2s they simply cannot have been put in a league with Ionians 2s. Pock 2s and Selby 2s have (on all the information we have ever received) been in Y3A I can only imagine where the confusion has come from, (but I think I know). I am sure Northallerton 2s will be looking forward playing away at Threshfield against the once almost unbeatableI (in Yorkshire Premiership merit table) Wharfedale Foresters.
I can confirm Pock 2s and Selby 2s were originally in Y2.
From a Pock perspective, it would of being a bigger step up than Y3A. The 2nd teams in that league bar Malton ( who blow most teams away last season and rightly deserve to be in Y2) have being in the merit premiership for some time and are a lil class above. Onions did drop down leagues but easily won it and went back up.
Sorry Flaggy, that was a typo in my last post - it's Northallerton in Y2A, not their twos.
I knew that. Only having a bit of banter. Sincerely hope all you gents at Ripon have summered well and PLEASE pass on my personal best regards to ANDY Proud. He is, as your goodself, held in high regard by us lads at North Ribb.
Too kind Flaggy. I didn't want to set hares running, or upset the shiny one! ;)
I certainly will pass on regards thanks.
Sorry if I missed something but has there been official notification on which players are eligible to play in the leagues at first and second team level. Is it just open registration within a club or are there restrictions?
Great question JND!
There is much official blurb flying around regarding player registration for 1st and 2nd XVs and what's included/excluded from eligibility. If in one of the Counties 2 leagues, contact Peter Morgan for details.
Essentially, despite some semblance of order about how you manage two effectively separate squads, clubs will be expected to self-police things. Not sure how that'll work in reality, but if everyone takes a sporting position :) what could possibly go wrong?
Morning all.
Have we had clarification in relation to the promotion and relegation picture for the upcoming season yet?
Of course not. In a meeting with Peter Morgan and county chair Ian Connell I was told it would be managed through GMS, but at that time no details were forthcoming. Clear as mud as usual. Maybe some clairvoyant with a crystal ball could give you details. Its that clear. Lets see but I can see a situation where a lad plays lets say six games in the first xv early season. Gets dropped to the seconds and then in an injury crisis gets picked for the first XV but is unable to play due to not thought out rules. Lets see but I can see choppy waters ahead for some including us who dont ahve two squads but merely a group of players who want to play rugby.
Surely it should be a step up scenario. First 15s name 30 players then anyone extra who steps up to first team more than 5 (or whatever) amount of times is classed as a first teamer. No named first teamers should be stepping down in my opinion.
Quote from: Dropped It on Jul 26, 2026, 05:18 PMSurely it should be a step up scenario. First 15s name 30 players then anyone extra who steps up to first team more than 5 (or whatever) amount of times is classed as a first teamer. No named first teamers should be stepping down in my opinion.
So a named 1st team player gets injured on the 5th game of the season, misses the next 5 or so games. What happens to this player? Straight back to the 1st team when not match fit? Drops down to 3rd team to get fitness (for those that have a 3rd team)?
Or simply is not allowed to play any rugby for those clubs that dont have a third team. Complete madness. The whole point of introducing second XVs into the system was to help retain players. Not to exclude them for being fringe players in a first team squad.
How do you stop first teamers being shifted into a 2nd team when there's a gap in the fixtures for the firsts and seconds are short a player or two or doing badly in the league? How's that fair on teams that can't rely on national league first team to bring players in from?
I offered an opinion to keep it fair to the teams that were in Y2 before the second teams were allowed in. I really don't care about injured national league players in clubs which say they can field two full teams all season..... until they can't. I do care about the teams that were already in those leagues potentially getting pumped every week losing players to those bigger teams and dropping out the leagues.
Look at it from the other side of the argument. A 1st gets a number of injuries, the better 2nd team players will be called up.
Those 1st teams that were already in the league aren't going to be losing their better players week after week to sit in the bench for another side.
So it works both ways.
Can see the arguement for when the 1st XV doesn't have a fixture, that's when some management needs to come into play. But if the 1st and 2nd team are playing on the same weekend then the club should be able to select whichever players they want for each side.
I feel that's a fair argument for a merit league 2nd team. Not for a league squad.
Let's not forget this whole thing is only beneficial for the big club 2nd teams not the small club 1st.
We get the same amount of games as we did before. We're not getting extra fixtures to raise more money for the club in this league. We don't know how promotion looks but if it's one from each side of Y2 leagues, it makes it twice as hard to be promoted but just as easy as last season to be demoted.
Seems there's lots going for the big teams being gifted access into Y2 (not having to be promoted into Y2 by winning Y4&3) pushing more players into those clubs on the promise of playing higher levels. I feel that something needs to be done to protect the integrity of the league and give more of a level playing field to those original Yorkshire 2 teams.
I only gave my opinion on how it may be done fairly as I see it. Feel free to disagree. But something does need doing.
Well said Dropper Man,
We were promised (I was personally by county chair Ian Connell in a meeting) that the main reason for allowing 2nd XVs into the system was to increase leagues to 14 to assist sustainability. That seemes to have been forgotten/ swept aside and one of the new lwagues actually has only 11 teams. Ten games at home in a season seems to me to be a huge backwards step.
Don't disagree about the size of the leagues, 14 team leagues should have been put in place this season whilst allowing 2nd teams into the leagues.
Lots of different points have been made across this, I was only highlighting that putting a ban on players who have played 5 games for the 1st XV doesn't work.
Mr Differ
its a complete shambles. Here we are in the middle of pre season training etc and yet nobody knows what the rules will be. Or maybe its that the powers that be (Mr Connell and Mr Morgan) still cant cook something up that will not adversely affect Rishies. It really is astounding the lack of communication to all clubs involved on what is a seismic decision to the clubs involved.
I really am sorry that the people supposedly in charge of our game at county level simply feel that they cannot communicate to the clubs affected on what the rules will be. It may be the case that once they reveal their thoughts/rules, that some clubs may actually pull out of the system leaving more chaos than the uncertainty we are now facing. After all we were promised 14 team leagues but one league has actually been reduced to 11 . How the f*** does that help any clubs sustainability.
I would ask Mr Morgan to explain but I know the silence will be deafening!!!!!!
Why should teams like Sheffield 2s and Heath 2s be allowed to swap in/loan players from a league that is 4/5 levels higher when the other sides in the league have to stick to the 2 league rule?
How can you possibly run a league that has totally different rules/laws for some teams but not others?
The whole thing is a disgrace Morgan and co should resign now
I understand everyone's frustrations in association to players from ones dropping into the 2s from
Nat 1/2 however as players they can only play what's in front of them.
Teams in Y2 have players that have played higher levels and we don't know what availability those teams will have on a weekly basis so judgement can't be passed until the end of the season occurs
In relation to promotion & relegation to offer more finances behind the bar at clubs I'd complete a play off system
1st in both league go up automatically then introduce a play of system from 2nd -5th in both side with a final play off allowing 3 teams to go up with a cross league play off!
That would allow extra gate/bar money for those teams.
And repeat a relegation play off system for the bottom 3 in each league!
This allows teams to filter up and down
With 3 coming down from Y1
Or even introduce a play off between 2nd in both league against 3/4th bottom of Y1
There are so many options
Quote from: Rugbymadlad24 on Jul 29, 2026, 07:01 AMI understand everyone's frustrations in association to players from ones dropping into the 2s from
Nat 1/2 however as players they can only play what's in front of them.
Teams in Y2 have players that have played higher levels and we don't know what availability those teams will have on a weekly basis so judgement can't be passed until the end of the season occurs
In relation to promotion & relegation to offer more finances behind the bar at clubs I'd complete a play off system
1st in both league go up automatically then introduce a play of system from 2nd -5th in both side with a final play off allowing 3 teams to go up with a cross league play off!
That would allow extra gate/bar money for those teams.
And repeat a relegation play off system for the bottom 3 in each league!
This allows teams to filter up and down
With 3 coming down from Y1
Or even introduce a play off between 2nd in both league against 3/4th bottom of Y1
There are so many options
It would seem you didn't pay attention to the farce the play offs at R2 were.
As for increased revenue. Can you explain how a team finishing 5th increases revenue over costs?
Do you honestly believe a team finishing 5th deserves to go up?
Back in February the RFU predicted there would be walkovers. They were right, but the Competitions committee wouldn't listen.
Quote from: Differ Lid on Jul 28, 2026, 01:24 PMDon't disagree about the size of the leagues, 14 team leagues should have been put in place this season whilst allowing 2nd teams into the leagues.
Lots of different points have been made across this, I was only highlighting that putting a ban on players who have played 5 games for the 1st XV doesn't work.
Tbf I did say "5 players (or whatever)". Meaning whatever number could be agreed upon. It was only meant as an example, not being exact. 👍
It would seem you didn't pay attention to the farce the play offs at R2 were.
As for increased revenue. Can you explain how a team finishing 5th increases revenue over costs?
Do you honestly believe a team finishing 5th deserves to go up
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Clearly you're stuck in your rugby ways and you don't venture out to other sports. Didn't hull just get promoted finishing 6th in the league in the football championship?
Play for your league positions then let a play off system run.
Quote from: Rugbymadlad24 on Jul 31, 2026, 10:31 PMIt would seem you didn't pay attention to the farce the play offs at R2 were.
As for increased revenue. Can you explain how a team finishing 5th increases revenue over costs?
Do you honestly believe a team finishing 5th deserves to go up
Clearly you're stuck in your rugby ways and you don't venture out to other sports. Didn't hull just get promoted finishing 6th in the league in the football championship?
Play for your league positions then let a play off system run.
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Can you explain why they've just reduced the play offs then?
And you didn't answer the question.