Gerrymandering

[Ribbflagman]

BRB I fear that the treacherous way this has been imposed on the majority of clubs behind the scenes. The only way to head it off at the pass (maybe) would be for a majority of clubs to take a "No Confidence" vote on certain positions. Never in my lifetime have I ever known an organisation to ask its members to vote on something that has already been decided. Its like holding an election in Russia or Afghanistan. Nowhere in the western world can this be seen as acceptable and the people responsible should imo resign forthwith, and hang their heads in shame at their total lack of respect for the majority of the clubs they are supposed to represent.
How we go about the above idea I dont know or know the county constitution but I am sure we can find out. If the county constitution has been breached the vote should be null and void and held again with the results published with clubs agreements so that we have transparency. The way this has been conducted will leave me in doubt as to the outcome of the vote being factual and not tampered with. Strong words I know, but, actions like this are NOT ACCEPTABLE.

[PocknRoll]

Well there's certainly not much appealing about Pock! Even your local school send players East!

The chance to appear in Panto with Prince Charming is an opportunity too good to turn down globally it would seem, why would a little market town on the Wolds be any different?

["ribbflagman"]

BRB I fear that the treacherous way this has been imposed on the majority of clubs behind the scenes. The only way to head it off at the pass (maybe) would be for a majority of clubs to take a "No Confidence" vote on certain positions. Never in my lifetime have I ever known an organisation to ask its members to vote on something that has already been decided. Its like holding an election in Russia or Afghanistan. Nowhere in the western world can this be seen as acceptable and the people responsible should imo resign forthwith, and hang their heads in shame at their total lack of respect for the majority of the clubs they are supposed to represent.
How we go about the above idea I dont know or know the county constitution but I am sure we can find out. If the county constitution has been breached the vote should be null and void and held again with the results published with clubs agreements so that we have transparency. The way this has been conducted will leave me in doubt as to the outcome of the vote being factual and not tampered with. Strong words I know, but, actions like this are NOT ACCEPTABLE.

Couldn't agree more brother

[Differ Lid]

Regardless of my views on 2nd XVs into the leagues (it obviously favours Driffields current stance)
However it has come as abit of a surprise that it's been done in this way.

Has it not been pointed out that it's come from the RFU rather than YRFU? Or they have at least been pushed in this direction.

[Ribbflagman]

Maybe been pushed in this direction by RFU. However the hard facts are that the quality of communication has been almost zero and lies have been told to people. There is simply no getting away from the fact that the whole affair has been handled with the aplomb of a primary school child. Are any of us going to believe a word they tell us in the future. NOT ME.

[Ribbflagman]

Just been reading the constitution of the county and under section 9.2 in the handbook it says that (in simple terms) if the Hon Sec receives a motion from NOT LESS THAN 20 MEMBERS then 14 days notice including time place and the motion to all members giving not less than 14 days notice.
 There you have it lads.
Any takers?

[backrowbandit]

Regardless of my views on 2nd XVs into the leagues (it obviously favours Driffields current stance)
However it has come as abit of a surprise that it's been done in this way.

Has it not been pointed out that it's come from the RFU rather than YRFU? Or they have at least been pushed in this direction.

Yes..this is more about poor communication and misleading process rather than the substantive issue in hand.

[backrowbandit]

Well there's certainly not much appealing about Pock! Even your local school send players East!

The chance to appear in Panto with Prince Charming is an opportunity too good to turn down globally it would seem, why would a little market town on the Wolds be any different?

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[Caravanboys]

Well that's a surprise-- not ! All passed

[backrowbandit]

So we move on.

Let's all try and make the most of the outcome. There have been negatives and positives highlighted regarding 2nd teams entering leagues. It's incumbent upon everyone to make sure the positives prevail for the good of all clubs in Yorkshire.

[John Noakes Dog]

I presume the list of which clubs voted for which option will be made available. In the interests of transparency.

[backrowbandit]

Does it really matter?

Rugby is all about shaking hands after a hard battle and moving on isn't it?

[bobtheguilder]

There are few toys being thrown out of the pram at present. However there were club conferences run in all the parts of the CB. The one I attended, these two subjects were the major discussion point. There was opportunity to raise points for and against. If clubs had not been invited to these events I would have agreed the process was flawed. All clubs were invited. We also had a non binding vote where the result was for both 14 team leagues and lower XVs in the leagues. We were told the process would have to go to an official vote. Timescales to get the process complete were tight to get the changes made and leagues sorted in time for new season.

In all the discussions I have attended I have heard no evidence backed data as to why lower XVs in the leagues would damage the game. It won't work in Yorkshire is not data.

I would also point out that I have had senior yorkshire officials get very angry when I have proposed it be a positive step to allow them in

I have one question. Did all clubs consult their players? Then use that mandate for the vote.

[backrowbandit]

I think what is more relevant is that current players should have primacy in the decision to enter or not.

I think in a county as large as Yorkshire there may be some interesting responses...

[bobtheguilder]

Why? Question posed to all Yorkshire clubs. 66 answered result clear.

Democracy.

Maybe some people believe in autocracy.