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Started by backrowbandit, Mar 25, 2026, 07:17 PM

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backrowbandit

Quote from: BishBashBosh on Apr 15, 2026, 02:10 PM
Quote from: avinastella on Apr 14, 2026, 10:01 AM
Quote from: Differ Lid on Apr 14, 2026, 06:19 AMWho has been poaching already?
A local N2 club currently without a 2nd team but who said they want 2nd teams allowed in the leagues.
The club is at serious risk of ending up in the relegation play offs

Is it poaching or recruiting though?
Surely it's good thing that your players go up the league to play a higher level?

We all know that since covid there isn't near enough players to go around

But they are playing for a higher placed clubs 2nd team at a lower level, they are not progressing.

It's pointless and will lead to the loss of some clubs unless it is very carefully monitored.
Loving all rugby but especially at grassroots level.

Differ Lid

If a club is changing how it's approaching players based on its 2s playing in Yorkshire 1 or 2 then it's not right, targeting first team squad players in the normal way would be expected.

Would be very hard to monitor though. Can't imagine many players are leaving a club with the view of playing 2nd XV rugby for a Nat 2 side

avinastella

Quote from: BishBashBosh on Apr 15, 2026, 02:08 PMMoney to play 2's - insanity!
They openly admitted to it on the zoom meeting 18 months ago
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he found his smack had talc in it.

bobtheguilder

Players have always moved clubs, either to challenge themselves at a higher level, because a club has more attractive facilities (gyms, physios better coaching) or Money. The money trail for clubs lasts as long as the 'sugar daddy' is around. The leagues are littered with once mighty clubs where the cash ran out.

Well run clubs that have medium and long-term plans will survive.

BishBashBosh

Quote from: backrowbandit on Apr 15, 2026, 02:23 PM
Quote from: BishBashBosh on Apr 15, 2026, 02:10 PM
Quote from: avinastella on Apr 14, 2026, 10:01 AM
Quote from: Differ Lid on Apr 14, 2026, 06:19 AMWho has been poaching already?
A local N2 club currently without a 2nd team but who said they want 2nd teams allowed in the leagues.
The club is at serious risk of ending up in the relegation play offs

Is it poaching or recruiting though?
Surely it's good thing that your players go up the league to play a higher level?

We all know that since covid there isn't near enough players to go around

But they are playing for a higher placed clubs 2nd team at a lower level, they are not progressing.

It's pointless and will lead to the loss of some clubs unless it is very carefully monitored.

This is also my point, surely clubs won't be able to tempt players to play twos and effectively play a league or two lower. They'll be recruiting them to play in the first team.

A player who plays first team for Driff is not going to sign to play Otley two's in Yorkshire 1 or 2
The only way they would sign is to play in the first team/be part of the first team squad

You may get some Driff second teamers to Otley, with the promise of playing yorkshire 1 or 2 and that would be a step up from the Merit leagues

avinastella

A comment from a match last night.

"We want to put our 2s into the leagues but to do so we need to recruit more players. Problem is, there are too many clubs these days. Some should fold allowing players to join clubs such as ours.
An added problem is R1 being allowed 5 replacements next season, so that will add an extra burden on to the second team".

Exactly what was predicted, and the powers that be totally ignoring it.
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he found his smack had talc in it.

John Noakes Dog

I see the Heath v Hudds 2xv play off match has been cancelled. Heath have 4 players with Yorkshire U20s, regs stipulate any players who have played 5 or more 1st xv games are ineligible, also injuries so Heath do not have enough players to safely play.
My question is will these regs be applicable under the new Yorkshire league system?