26/27 counties leagues !?

[backrowbandit]

Let the arguing begin.
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[Multifrontrow]

I actually agree with 2nd teams entering. The merit leagues have been the same most seasons. More games going ahead is needed, I think 4 or 5 from east merit championship were taken out after not fulfilling fixtures.
But surely place the teams that said yes into suitable leagues.
As has been said, there will be some big scores and alot of adjusting.

[bobtheguilder]

I am still struggling with the financial implications being an issue. If a club treats all its players equitably, pay subs, match fees get sponsored etc, I see benefits for clubs of more meaningful home games, ideally one every week.
The hope is we retain or increase the number of participants.
It's only 4 years ago that people said the game was dead, due to the lowering of the tackle height,'the players would walk away in droves'. Not sure that happened.

[TykeTalk]

And wait until clubs realise the financial implications of this clusterf**k.

In what way?

Work it out. It's not difficult.

So you can't substantiate your claim.

[TykeTalk]

I am still struggling with the financial implications being an issue. If a club treats all its players equitably, pay subs, match fees get sponsored etc, I see benefits for clubs of more meaningful home games, ideally one every week.
The hope is we retain or increase the number of participants.
It's only 4 years ago that people said the game was dead, due to the lowering of the tackle height,'the players would walk away in droves'. Not sure that happened.

Very valid points.

There are a lot of doomsayers on here.

[slowbackweakforward]

I'm hopeful that it may help with retaining players who can't play every week due to other commitments.
Hopefully it means the players who can play say once a month, can play a game at the right sort of level, as opposed to playing merit league/friendlies which are often cancelled or end up being one sided games (through nobody's fault)

[avinastella]

Does anyone have the link to the spreadsheet with all the leagues on please ?

It's in my post from yesterday.

[Caravanboys]

Yorkshire 2 none of the 1st teams will get a look in, in that league. Basically a screw you from the RFU to the 1st teams in that league. It will be a season of cricket scores for Drif, Wharefdale and ionians 2s in Y2A, and in Y2B will be Harrogate, Heath and Sandal 2s entertaining their blazers by putting 100 points past the likes of Bramley and Corinthians. The problem is some of these 2nds teams are at Y1 level, or higher if there 1s have a good season for injuries. The lower teams in Y2 are going to suffer this season till those team work their way to the level they should be at.

Yorkshire 3 and 4, from my experience of the 2nd teams in those leagues I dont see this as being as much of a problem as Y2. Still expect to see some cricket scores when the 2nd teams are playing on weekends that their 1s dont have a game.

totally agree don't think levels have even been thought off.

[Caravanboys]

Having looked at both the structured season and new 2nd teams comming into Yorkshire leagues the one thing that stands out to me like a sore thumb is it appears our comps committee have purposefully structured the season to give the new 2nd teams the easiest ride they could gerrymander with 6 out of the 22 league games for the new 2nd teams, in 12 team leagues, on weekends were their 1st team do not have a game.

If we are going to have this at least keep the clubs honest and make the 2s in a 12 team leagues play on the same weekend as their 1st teams, London society can do it. I cant see why North cant also manage this and just replicate the structured season London put in place.

OSP, there is nothing honest about this.

if been open and transparent then Y1 should have been included as it was sold to us. Which would have had a more level playing field

[Old Fool]

The whole reorganisation was sold on 14 team leagues and competitive local rugby to help with player retention and recruitment. As previously said if someone had bothered to look at last years tables both league and merit as well as maybe using google maps or even AI the new leagues would look totally different. Yes not everyone would be happy but I suspect clubs would be happier at the outcome. Yes as a club we voted for a 14 team league and on the back of that allow the inclusion of 2nd teams into the league, on reflection we are regretting the decision increased mileage, prospect of playing full of semi-pro players from National league clubs... I could go on. Will common sense prevail, I doubt it !

[TWOMANYHATS]

Well at least we know which clubs voted for 2nd teams to join the leagues

I don't think we do. Several voter against it but when the battle was lost chose to enter. They would have been no one left to play!

As I under stand it there were 36 teams that voted for 2nd XV to be in the league. Just so happens there are 36 2's in the published proposal.

Reading others comments they don't appear to have "applied" and how can you apply to something when you don't know the rules that will be used to govern the 2nd teams and player movement?

[avinastella]

The whole reorganisation was sold on 14 team leagues and competitive local rugby to help with player retention and recruitment. As previously said if someone had bothered to look at last years tables both league and merit as well as maybe using google maps or even AI the new leagues would look totally different. Yes not everyone would be happy but I suspect clubs would be happier at the outcome. Yes as a club we voted for a 14 team league and on the back of that allow the inclusion of 2nd teams into the league, on reflection we are regretting the decision increased mileage, prospect of playing full of semi-pro players from National league clubs... I could go on. Will common sense prevail, I doubt it !

"6.I Connell stated Yorkshire Rugby has to evolve/change as the game is changing.  England Rugby is looking to change through ongoing projects."

In other words. One mans agenda.