Sheff Tigers.

[Ribbflagman]

What the hell is going on at Tigers. Yesterday was the second time this season (I would stand corrected) that they have given a HWO. I wonder if the "Three strikes and you are out" policy will still apply as it did in the merit tables last season. Perhaps Peter could confirm such on here or somebody else responsible for the decision making in Yorkshire. I honestly do not know the answer but somebody should and not be afraid to publicly say so, if not on here then by correct communication through the county administration.

[avinastella]

What the hell is going on at Tigers. Yesterday was the second time this season (I would stand corrected) that they have given a HWO. I wonder if the "Three strikes and you are out" policy will still apply as it did in the merit tables last season. Perhaps Peter could confirm such on here or somebody else responsible for the decision making in Yorkshire. I honestly do not know the answer but somebody should and not be afraid to publicly say so, if not on here then by correct communication through the county administration.

The 3 strikes and you're out is in the the public domain. YRFU Website.

[Caravanboys]

I sincerely hope they dont .But I'd rather know in advance if the games going to be off. Prep for the lads,food! and any evens home clubs try to put on to generate funds. Not knowing is worse.

[Ashrugby]

There is no way Sheffield Tigers should have been placed in Yorkshire 2, it was obvious that they didn't handle merit leagues games that well and it would be best to remove them from Yorkshire 2 now for the benefit of all teams and themselves

I don't know who thought that there were 12 clubs who had 2nd teams that could cope with playing every week in Yorkshire 2

Only Hull Ionians, Sheffield and Heath (as they recruited players to help them) are comfortable in Yorkshire 2.

Some 2nd teams are winning a few games but only by winning games usually against other 2nd teams who are struggling also.

 I think a number of clubs with 2nd teams were persuaded to put a team in Yorkshire 2 and didn't think it was right for them. Some refused to go into Yorkshire 2 and some agreed to enter, but it's not helping them.

It's more likely to get worse as the season goes on and needs to be properly addressed for next season

Some explanation about why Yorkshire rfu set it up like this would have ben interested

[Legwill]

How come a Nat League 2 North team can't put out a second team? they have a decent juniors set up don't they?

[Locked Out]

Good points folks. Having been at the wrong end of the encounter with Hull Ionians Buccaneers and then convincingly beaten Driffield 2nds, M&N 2nds, Ilkley 2nds and now Harrogate 2nds, with my club, I can see the vast difference between the 1st and 2nd XVs. I think the move to introduce "higher level" clubs to the league structure was intended to be well-intended, but the reality is some sides are getting tatered or in Tigers' case, unable to raise a team.

It shouldn't have been presumed that just because a club's 1st XV is doing well in the leagues, it would follow that they'd have competitive 2nd XVs. I personally think that all of the 2nds should have been put in one division, let them fight it out amongst themselves and feed the winner/first two sides to the league proper for the next season.

[Ashrugby]

Clubs like Huddersfield, Scarborough, North Ribblesdale, Selby, Old Brods and Pocklington got their 2nd team placed in Yorkshire 3 leagues somehow

That's a level where they've had generally good games at the level they can compete at.

I'm guessing that those clubs had a better idea where their 2nd team should be than some other clubs and definitely better than Yorkshire RFU

[Multifrontrow]

Pock and Selby were placed in Yorkshire 2 to begin with. Both clubs decided it was a step to far.
Yorkshire 3 has been a twat so far for Pock. As suspected injuries, 1st team selection, long journeys and booking holiday during game week have disrupted us.
Great to see it unfold and even out over the next couple of seasons.

[Ribbflagman]

Its a very contentious point whenever new teams are allocated into a new setup, however I personally feel that with proper communication and some degree of consultation (we had Zero) things could have been better handled. Having said that it is always easy to criticise from the periphery. A few Geography lessons would not go amiss to the people involved!!!!
It wasnt until all the leagues were allocated that the !Rules" regarding players eligibility to play in their clubs 2nd XV was published.  Surely in any normal situation this would have been declared prior to the invite to enter a "Lower XV" into the league system.
OOPS, I forgot that it was a done deal even before every club wasted its time on a vote that was totally meaningless due to our esteemed county Chairman being a liar.
14 Team leagues was the promise that all clubs voted on.
 Please somebody explain if I am incorrect. I am only saying what many are scratching their heads at.

[Dr Jekyll]

Just 11 home league games to raise revenue, to fund a club for a year is tough.
To lose one is bad enough, to incur those extra costs (staff/food/programmes) instead of revenue is painful.
To lose 2 or 3 becomes unmanageable for the small clubs on here.

Is help going to be given to us if needed?? Energy costs? Pitch Maintenance? Referees Fees paid for by RFU?
I'm yet to see any assurances or offers from above.
Hopefully the HWO's dont become a regular thing!