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Started by Dalesman, May 21, 2025, 05:53 PM

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Dalesman

Go to RFU North website to view the leagues for next season, in the news section.

gateprop

So after all that North Ribb go into Regional 2 North West. Best start fundraising for the bus/boat trip to the Isle of Man now!

backrowbandit

Wow if I was NR I would be seriously p1ssed. However, no one has died so let's keep in perspective.

Best of luck to everyone next season. Personally I'm sad I'm not going to NR.
Loving all rugby but especially at grassroots level.

Flaggy

BRB Your WOW is nothing compared to ours. I will not go into detail on here as I think it unfair if volunteers at whatever level are questioned (not criticised) on a public forum. The only thing I will say is this.
Regulation 6 (appendix 2.) States that a) Club with the total lowest mileage between them (Ribb and Crossleyans) and all the  clubs in the league to be augmented (Regional 2NW) shall be moved.
If you use the RFU travel tool that they state is used, "Google maps on default settings" Crocs travel is 4.9% less that ours and as such I believe they should have been moved before us, as the next criteria says that if the two clubs involved have "Almost identical mileage" defined as a difference of 2% then the club with the least mileage in the club they would have been in will stay in that league. That would favour Crocs no doubt.
How can a professional organisation as the RFU not simply follow their own regs. Having spoken to the chair of the "Deciding committee" I was told that there is ambiguity in the wording of the regs and the decision was not appealable. He expressed sympathy but told me that was the decision and nothing could be done about it.
There are also issues with the comms from North ROC but I will not go into that on here. We have to accept our fate which we firmly believe is in direct contradiction of the regs we all have to adhere to as they are written. Forgive the pun, but you couldnt write it. Same as the RFU legal Eagles.
FORMERLY Ribbflagman.

Flaggy

BRB
     no need to cancel your Villa in the hills of Settle. Please let me know the date of your booking and you can attend Ribb as our guest, as we dont think there will be too many takers at Ribb from Sandbach, Waterloo and the Isle of Man!!!!
Seriously we would be delighted to welcome you and any others who fancy a trip to our outpost.
FORMERLY Ribbflagman.

avinastella

#5
Quote from: Flaggy on May 21, 2025, 07:54 PMBRB Your WOW is nothing compared to ours. I will not go into detail on here as I think it unfair if volunteers at whatever level are questioned (not criticised) on a public forum. The only thing I will say is this.
Regulation 6 (appendix 2.) States that a) Club with the total lowest mileage between them (Ribb and Crossleyans) and all the  clubs in the league to be augmented (Regional 2NW) shall be moved.
If you use the RFU travel tool that they state is used, "Google maps on default settings" Crocs travel is 4.9% less that ours and as such I believe they should have been moved before us, as the next criteria says that if the two clubs involved have "Almost identical mileage" defined as a difference of 2% then the club with the least mileage in the club they would have been in will stay in that league. That would favour Crocs no doubt.
How can a professional organisation as the RFU not simply follow their own regs. Having spoken to the chair of the "Deciding committee" I was told that there is ambiguity in the wording of the regs and the decision was not appealable. He expressed sympathy but told me that was the decision and nothing could be done about it.
There are also issues with the comms from North ROC but I will not go into that on here. We have to accept our fate which we firmly believe is in direct contradiction of the regs we all have to adhere to as they are written. Forgive the pun, but you couldnt write it. Same as the RFU legal Eagles.
I think you'll find there is certainly precedent for appealing.
And more so when you look at the record of RFU North.
And lets not forget, this all stems from the ridiculous six second placed teams with the best results ---- except that's not how they decided it.
all in the best interests of player welfare,respecting the interests of players and clubs yada yada yada. It was nonsense then and it's nonsense now.
And worse, some clown wants to give regional more power!!! FFS.
Oh, and where did this R1/2 are effectively National leagues come from? Strange that the actual RFU don't see it that way.
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he found his smack had talc in it.

Rob

Bit awkward but saying you're willing to consider level transfer one way you've already opened yourself up to having to spend long winter days over in the dark valleys.

Good luck, will hope to revisit Ribb at some point if I'm still lacing the boots up.

Even without Ribb R2NE looks like a very, very tough even league..

Flaggy

Stella
        just to be clear the North ROC had recommended something different to the outcome for us on two occasions. It is the Chair of the deciding committee who has overruled them and personally told me there was no process to appeal. The new leagues have now been published so we have no option but to knuckle down and, hopefully, make lots of new friends. Last time I was on the Isle of Man was on a Ribb tour in 1982!!! 
FORMERLY Ribbflagman.

Flaggy

Rob
    it wouldnt have made any difference as the man chairing the committee at Twickers has overruled the North ROC. Suspect that the "Old Boys" network has been brought into play by someone well connected with HQ at Old Crocs. If that is the case they have done a sterling job between them.
FORMERLY Ribbflagman.

BigBadWolf69

NE2 looks like a tasty league next year. I suspect most clubs will be going heavy on recruitment!

Glad we finally have a conclusion and can start to plan accordingly.

davie

That's a turn up Flaggy but a trip to the Isle of Man is an opportunity to have some fun.
I'm sure you will do well in that league as it's not as strong as Yorkshire although the N2W clubs might refuse to travel to Settle as they don't like scenic destinations. 🫤

avinastella

Quote from: davie on May 22, 2025, 12:47 PMThat's a turn up Flaggy but a trip to the Isle of Man is an opportunity to have some fun.
I'm sure you will do well in that league as it's not as strong as Yorkshire although the N2W clubs might refuse to travel to Settle as they don't like scenic destinations. 🫤
Read an article regarding transport provision for the IOM trips. Fun most certainly wasn't included.
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he found his smack had talc in it.

avinastella

New season structure just released.
See attached.
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he found his smack had talc in it.

"ribbflagman"

Quote from: Flaggy on May 22, 2025, 07:22 AMRob
    it wouldnt have made any difference as the man chairing the committee at Twickers has overruled the North ROC. Suspect that the "Old Boys" network has been brought into play by someone well connected with HQ at Old Crocs. If that is the case they have done a sterling job between them.

Ah well

selall

Quote from: "ribbflagman" on May 22, 2025, 03:31 PM
Quote from: Flaggy on May 22, 2025, 07:22 AMRob
    it wouldnt have made any difference as the man chairing the committee at Twickers has overruled the North ROC. Suspect that the "Old Boys" network has been brought into play by someone well connected with HQ at Old Crocs. If that is the case they have done a sterling job between them.

Ah well

 :o