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Are York pushing big for promotion

Started by Sail By, Apr 25, 2025, 08:59 AM

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Sail By

As well as a number of York players selected for Yorkshire senior squad and having a number of Yorkshire U20 players York seem to be on a very ambitious recruitment drive to gain promotion. 

DA anything to report about the big push??

Differ Lid

York don't pay players apparently. So I can only assume the big push is built of beer vouchers and a free T-Shirt.

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Quote from: Sail By on Apr 25, 2025, 08:59 AMAs well as a number of York players selected for Yorkshire senior squad and having a number of Yorkshire U20 players York seem to be on a very ambitious recruitment drive to gain promotion. 

DA anything to report about the big push??
York will be looking internally and externally for players to cover this season retirements and leavers, I have no doubt.
Like all clubs at this level York do pay travel expenses, but seeing that the majority of the first team squad are local to the club and York area, this is minimal.
I have been reassured that the club do not pay players.
As for next season York will not be targeting promotion. But they do want to be competitive and play an attractive standard of rugby.
If promotion happens then it happens, but York play at a sports club and do not  have any the finances to call upon, unlike many is this league.
I suspect they would bite the hand off of clubs like Driff for instance, to have a similar balance sheet and fund raising capability.
So this level is a good level for the likes of York to play at.
Nat 2 leagues are virtually all semi pro and York would not be as competitive at the next level. Nor do they have the strength in depth.
I believe league rugby is killing the game, with teams trying everything to maintain their league status over investing what little revenue streams they can access, into development squads, transition from colts to adult rugby at all levels of capability.
As for the rest, I think the only thing that York can can offer the likes of players from Selby, Malton and Pocklington for instance is a chance for players to test themselves at a higher level.
Have no fear of perfection, you'll never reach it."

backrowbandit

Or players from York could come at play at the Twickenham of the North?  ;D

I suspect that clubs like Driffield will dispute that they are in much of a better financial position than York. What fundraising capabilities do Driffield have that York don't? Other than a few meals before a match...
Loving all rugby but especially at grassroots level.

Differ Lid

I suspect Clubs like Driffield would love to have the population of a city like York for instance, A couple of Universities really wouldn't go a miss either.
 
Imagine the fundraising opportunities or Sponsors that would be available if the population of Driffield was 10x bigger.

Every club makes the most of what they have around them.

Sail By

Driffer Lid, but you have your own club and a bar....something York RUFC would kill for!!

backrowbandit

Having your own club is a comfort matter not a financial one.

Having a bar is hardly the panacea it once was. In reality no rugby club can survive on bar sales alone. Pubs can't survive on bar sales and they don't have any of the associated costs of running a rugby club!

I think Differ got it spot on - you just need to make the most of whatever hand you are dealt.

Driffield have their own club ....York have a benefit of a city and two universities.

Both clubs seem to be doing just fine...
Loving all rugby but especially at grassroots level.

scrappy doo

 I am sure the York club do not pay players but that doesn't stop outside influences not officially connected to the club paying. Isn't that what the quality street gang was set up for, to look after players?
 

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Quote from: scrappy doo on Apr 29, 2025, 08:55 AMI am sure the York club do not pay players but that doesn't stop outside influences not officially connected to the club paying. Isn't that what the quality street gang was set up for, to look after players?
 
Quality Street Gang are not influential in any way, financially or otherwise at York and haven't been for sometime.
I've no doubt at their height in the 70's and 80's they did facilitate some funding. But it went predominantly on superstars like Joe Roff and Peter Winterbottom to name a couple playing for the QSG in the Dubai sevens etc.
A few still wear the QSG ties for club lunches etc, but nothing more.
The York Sports Club is very successful in raising funds for York sports club not the rugby club.
York Rugbyclub pay their part of the levy to York Sports Club, they do not get a single penny of the money taken over any of the bars, despite holding lunches etc. They get charged corkage and have to pay for the food which is supplied by the club who have the monopoly on all food eaten on the premises.
So sponsorship, raffles, gate money and a few quid on each lunch supplied as well as players membership and subs is as good as it gets.
Obviously we all would like wealthy sponsors behind our clubs to a degree.
But York had 6 amateur rugby clubs, 1 professional rugby league team as well as a professional football club to compete against for sponsorship.
Unlike Driff, Pock and the east coast donkey wallopers!
Have no fear of perfection, you'll never reach it."

backrowbandit

Ok humour me, which are the 6 amateur rugby clubs? Or are you including rugby league?
Loving all rugby but especially at grassroots level.

Flaggy

BRB
     Seems to be a deafening silence to your very civilised question.
FORMERLY Ribbflagman.

Flaggy

Think DAA must be including the RL teams as to my knowledge only Rowntrees, York RI, and York are the three union clubs in the town. unless you include University sides that play on a wednesday!!!!!
FORMERLY Ribbflagman.

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Quote from: backrowbandit on May 03, 2025, 07:16 AMOk humour me, which are the 6 amateur rugby clubs? Or are you including rugby league?
Sorry BRB, just read this post.
Yes I am including amateur rugby league clubs in the six.
Six clubs trying to attract adult and youth rugby players across the City.
I didn't include York uni or St John's college in that number as they are self sufficient.
However we get very few students playing nowadays on a weekend due to the obvious financial pressures they are under.
Anyway fluffy what happened to Your boys in the final?
Have no fear of perfection, you'll never reach it."