Sat 24/05/25 - York v Cleckheaton (Yorkshire Cup Final)

Started by Rugby Badger, May 18, 2025, 02:46 PM

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Rugby Badger

Thought I would get the chat & predictions for this early considering both teams in the final are from this league.

York start big favourites for me although you never know in a one off game and I'm sure the Cleck boys will be up for it especially as it is likely to be captain Dickie Piper's last ever game for them.

Think both forward packs will even themselves out but York will have the edge in the backs especially with Cleckheaton missing Hainsworth although they will still pose a threat with Breakwell's boot and the couple of Ex RL Pros Sammut and Brambani.

Just out of interest does anyone know if the York boys who have been selected to play for Yorkshire are choosing that game over the final? Stupid they have to even make that decision in the 1st place but that's the RFU for you!

Flaggy

Its a classic case of the right hand and the left hand not communicating together. I know York have three in the senior squad who will have to choose. We have a lad in the U20s who wants to play for us but feels that if he does he may jeopardise possible selection for the North U20s. It has put him in a personal dilemma, but we as a club support him playing for the county. It is a situation that could be avoided with a bit of forward planning.
FORMERLY Ribbflagman.

avinastella

Quote from: Rugby Badger on May 18, 2025, 02:46 PMJust out of interest does anyone know if the York boys who have been selected to play for Yorkshire are choosing that game over the final? Stupid they have to even make that decision in the 1st place but that's the RFU for you!
According to the county website, County team takes priority. Read into that what you will.
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he found his smack had talc in it.

Flaggy

Nobody can force them to play for the county. Surely it must be an individual choice. Rarely will York players get the chance of playing in the final of the "Owd Tin Pot" but would still be eligible for county selection on other games or next season. That is if the powers that be didnt exercise their power and not select on grounds of "Misguided loyalty".
FORMERLY Ribbflagman.

BroughtonRRR

I thin that York might just have the edge in this game.  However, Cleck are always able to spring a surprise.

Congratulations to Heath for winning the Papa Johns Plate final 33-22 v Bracknell last Saturday

Sail By

Quote from: Flaggy on May 19, 2025, 04:35 PMNobody can force them to play for the county. Surely it must be an individual choice. Rarely will York players get the chance of playing in the final of the "Owd Tin Pot" but would still be eligible for county selection on other games or next season. That is if the powers that be didnt exercise their power and not select on grounds of "Misguided loyalty".

They will get a lot of chances in the coming years as this is the level that it has moved to.

Dark Arts Advocate

Congratulations to York in their nervy but deserved victory in the Final yesterday.
The Yorkshire Cup is not as prestigious in the eyes of the Yorkshire committee which speaks volumes of those who are supposed to lead this great county in all things rugby union.
But it is history in the making and will be fondly remembered by those took part and watched.
Yorkshire should be ashamed of themselves, but no doubt they will all have lame excuses and sloping shoulders, with no one taking responsibility for the debacle of six weeks inactivity after the end of the season, to fit in with their incompetence 
Have no fear of perfection, you'll never reach it."

avinastella

Quote from: Dark Arts Advocate on May 25, 2025, 04:44 PMCongratulations to York in their nervy but deserved victory in the Final yesterday.
The Yorkshire Cup is not as prestigious in the eyes of the Yorkshire committee which speaks volumes of those who are supposed to lead this great county in all things rugby union.
But it is history in the making and will be fondly remembered by those took part and watched.
Yorkshire should be ashamed of themselves, but no doubt they will all have lame excuses and sloping shoulders, with no one taking responsibility for the debacle of six weeks inactivity after the end of the season, to fit in with their incompetence
To be fair to the committee, most were at the County double header. Fixtures confirmed long before someone thought it a good idea to have the County Cup finals on the same day without clearing it with central office.
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he found his smack had talc in it.

backrowbandit

How can we so easily shoot ourselves in the foot??
Loving all rugby but especially at grassroots level.

avinastella

Quote from: backrowbandit on May 25, 2025, 09:52 PMHow can we so easily shoot ourselves in the foot??
I understand the question was asked.
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he found his smack had talc in it.

Rugby Badger

Quote from: Dark Arts Advocate on May 25, 2025, 04:44 PMCongratulations to York in their nervy but deserved victory in the Final yesterday.
The Yorkshire Cup is not as prestigious in the eyes of the Yorkshire committee which speaks volumes of those who are supposed to lead this great county in all things rugby union.
But it is history in the making and will be fondly remembered by those took part and watched.
Yorkshire should be ashamed of themselves, but no doubt they will all have lame excuses and sloping shoulders, with no one taking responsibility for the debacle of six weeks inactivity after the end of the season, to fit in with their incompetence
Yes congratulations to York I thought it was a good game and York were deserved winners in the end. Not for the 1st time Cleckheaton's discipline let them down again with 2 yellows and a red card!

avinastella

Quote from: Rugby Badger on May 27, 2025, 05:37 PMYes congratulations to York I thought it was a good game and York were deserved winners in the end. Not for the 1st time Cleckheaton's discipline let them down again with 2 yellows and a red card!
That's put the total of Discipline cases to over 200 for the season. A record.
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he found his smack had talc in it.

Dark Arts Advocate

Quote from: avinastella on May 25, 2025, 07:43 PM
Quote from: Dark Arts Advocate on May 25, 2025, 04:44 PMCongratulations to York in their nervy but deserved victory in the Final yesterday.
The Yorkshire Cup is not as prestigious in the eyes of the Yorkshire committee which speaks volumes of those who are supposed to lead this great county in all things rugby union.
But it is history in the making and will be fondly remembered by those took part and watched.
Yorkshire should be ashamed of themselves, but no doubt they will all have lame excuses and sloping shoulders, with no one taking responsibility for the debacle of six weeks inactivity after the end of the season, to fit in with their incompetence
To be fair to the committee, most were at the County double header. Fixtures confirmed long before someone thought it a good idea to have the County Cup finals on the same day without clearing it with central office.
I aren't surprised by that. They dusted down a previous president to award their prestigious trophy's whilst they all had their noses in the trough at Hull.
Very poor leadership
Have no fear of perfection, you'll never reach it."

avinastella

Quote from: Dark Arts Advocate on May 27, 2025, 09:17 PM
Quote from: avinastella on May 25, 2025, 07:43 PM
Quote from: Dark Arts Advocate on May 25, 2025, 04:44 PMCongratulations to York in their nervy but deserved victory in the Final yesterday.
The Yorkshire Cup is not as prestigious in the eyes of the Yorkshire committee which speaks volumes of those who are supposed to lead this great county in all things rugby union.
But it is history in the making and will be fondly remembered by those took part and watched.
Yorkshire should be ashamed of themselves, but no doubt they will all have lame excuses and sloping shoulders, with no one taking responsibility for the debacle of six weeks inactivity after the end of the season, to fit in with their incompetence
To be fair to the committee, most were at the County double header. Fixtures confirmed long before someone thought it a good idea to have the County Cup finals on the same day without clearing it with central office.
I aren't surprised by that. They dusted down a previous president to award their prestigious trophy's whilst they all had their noses in the trough at Hull.
Very poor leadership
So you think the Committee members should just ignore the County teams because York were in the Cup Final?
Look at the detail. why, you could even bother yourself to read the County meeting minutes.
"Bother!" said Pooh, as he found his smack had talc in it.

Sail By

DA I have to come in and stand up for our current President.
Last Saturday he attended the value the volunteer event prior to the U20 game where he then gave his time up and helped select for the North U20 group, all before enjoying watching the senior men's team.

Many of your current players at York have developed under the stewardship of our current President and he should be applauded for his time and efforts in this field.